Quote: I have the CUDA dlls in the WINSYS32 folder so apparently, PD14 doesn't use those.

Absolutely no need for the CUDA dlls on a GTX960m with PD13 (recent version) or PD14.

I thought that was cleared up for your laptop here http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/44178.page#228599

Jeff

Oops sorry GTX965M... DLL thing doesn't matter for this discussion. PD14 is twice as SLOW than PD13 producing to MP4. Have updated the nVidia drivers several times (353.62, 355.60, 355.82). Even installed WIn10 and now preview 10532.
NVENC doesn't seem to be 'faster' than CUDA when transcoding .m2ts to MP4 in my case. Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
Gary Russell -- TN USA

Quote: Oops sorry GTX965M... DLL thing doesn't matter for this discussion. PD14 is twice as SLOW than PD13 producing to MP4. Have updated the nVidia drivers several times (353.62, 355.60, 355.82). Even installed WIn10 and now preview 10532.
NVENC doesn't seem to be 'faster' than CUDA when transcoding .m2ts to MP4 in my case.

Sorry, I'm failing to understand what you really have or are comparing. To my knowledge, with a GTX9xxx GPU, current version of PD13 or PD14, and recent Nvidia drivers one can't even get the old CUDA encoder to function with the dll file replacement. At least it won't work for me on a GTX960, GTX970 or GTX980, however, I see little value in trying so didn’t spend a lot of time on this. Threads have been posted by others too. So how are you comparing NVENC and CUDA on GTX965M?

Laptops can be very strange depending on manufacture and iGPU vs discrete GPU operation and switching. I assume you have monitored the GTX965M load and it's truly being utilized for your MP4 producing comparison? Can you be a little more specific on exact MP4 settings so that maybe one can try and repeat. PD supports a MP4 container for H.264, H.265, XAVC S with many different profiles, some of which don't support hardware encoding with Nvidia so exact settings would be helpful to try and replicate, a pic of entire produce screen ideal.

For me, m2ts to H.264 MP4 1920x1080/30p (16Mbps) was 4.33 faster than real time for both PD13 and PD14, identical.

Jeff

New Asus G751JL-DS71 -- only comes with 1TB 5400rpm drive but I installed 500GB Samsung EVO as boot with 'clean' Win10 install.

4th Generation Intel Core i7 4720HQ, GTX965M with dedicated 2GB RAM
Specs say it has the HD4600 GPU, but there is no way in the BIOS to access it. So I can only use the GTX965M

This is a retest using a custom profile that I normally use.
I used the same 1 hour .m2ts to convert to MP4 720p 30fps (3Mbps custom profile) in both PD13 and PD14.
PD13 took 11min
PD14 took 25min

GPUz:
PD13 core clk 950Mhz / GPU load 13% / Video Engine load 60-70%

PD14 core clk 750-800Mhz / GPU load 10% / Video Engine load 45-50% Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
Gary Russell -- TN USA

Quote: New Asus G751JL-DS71 -- only comes with 1TB 5400rpm drive but I installed 500GB Samsung EVO as boot with 'clean' Win10 install.

4th Generation Intel Core i7 4720HQ, GTX965M with dedicated 2GB RAM
Specs say it has the HD4600 GPU, but there is no way in the BIOS to access it. So I can only use the GTX965M

This is a retest using a custom profile that I normally use.
I used the same 1 hour .m2ts to convert to MP4 720p 30fps (3Mbps custom profile) in both PD13 and PD14.
PD13 took 11min
PD14 took 25min

GPUz:
PD13 core clk 950Mhz / GPU load 13% / Video Engine load 60-70%

PD14 core clk 750-800Mhz / GPU load 10% / Video Engine load 45-50%

I'm not seeing anything here on your CUDA vs NVENV situation and how you get PD to encode with both encoding engines on the GTX965M for comparison. Not understanding your particular situation, I can't offer any additional advice, good luck. Maybe CL support is a good option for you.

Jeff

Quote: I'm not seeing anything here on your CUDA vs NVENV

Didn't say that was what is happening. Just assumed. Fact: PD14 is slower than PD13 on my laptop. Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
Gary Russell -- TN USA

The software of PD 14 has a different Sice and lots of adons !!! !!!! Pauls PC
X399 AORUS Extreme/AMD Ryzen2970WX/1xQuatro 4000 Driver:Geforce 419.67Skill V DDR4 64GB/3200MHz/Win10 prox64
Intel SSD 750/400 / Intel SSD 750/1.2Tb 1x4TB SSHD /1xSeagate 10TB pro
1xSamsung UA28D590 4k LUMIX GH5 1xLG HDR

I only use PD for one thing - converting WTV files. I use other software to edit my video.



Just tested PD14 on my desktop and got the same results. PD14 took twice as long to render a 1hr .m2ts 1080/60i to 720/30p as PD13.

Think I will stay with PD13. Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
Gary Russell -- TN USA

PD13 versus PD14 :

Tested 3 different projects with a large variety of editing in them using mp4 source and rendering to mp4 at a lower rate.

PD14 was consistently 10% slower than PD13 in rendering. Where PD14 was an improvement was in real-time preview which was smoother. Win 10, i7

I have a desktop with following specs and I cannot enable true velocity, any ideas folks on how to enable this feature.

any help would be great folks

many thanks

pc specs

System Information report written at:

02/06/16 10:20:05System Name: DESKTOP-QO5NG1O[System Summary]Item Value OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Version 10.0.10240 Build 10240 Other OS Description Not Available OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name xxxxxxxxxxm graphics AMD Radeon HD 6670 Manufacturer Advent System Model DT2 System Type x64-based PC System SKU To be filled by O.E.M. Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2320 CPU @ 3.00GHz, 3001 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s) BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. V2.5B4, 27/06/2012 SMBIOS Version 2.7 Embedded Controller Version 255.255 BIOS Mode Legacy BaseBoard Manufacturer Advent BaseBoard Model Not Available BaseBoard Name Base Board Platform Role Desktop Secure Boot State Unsupported PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible Windows Directory C:\Windows System Directory C:\Windows\system32 Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume5 Locale United Kingdom Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.10240.16392" User Name DESKTOP-QO5NG1O\Administrator Time Zone GMT Standard Time Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB Total Physical Memory 7.96 GB Available Physical Memory 4.51 GB Total Virtual Memory 9.84 GB Available Virtual Memory 5.16 GB Page File Space 1.88 GB Page File C:\pagefile.sys Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware Yes Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes no need

aidy, you have no piece of hardware that supports true velocity "Hardware video encoder" for the profile you are producing to in your snap3 pic (H.265). As far as true velocity SVRT feature, your timeline video format must be very similar to your "Produce" video format. The docs provide some good information here for additional background.

Jeff

Quote: aidy, you have no piece of hardware that supports true velocity "Hardware video encoder" for the profile you are producing to in your snap3 pic (H.265). As far as true velocity SVRT feature, your timeline video format must be very similar to your "Produce" video format. The docs provide some good information here for additional background.

Jeff

could you explain in more detail please Jeff.

I have a mkv in the time line and I am trying to produce mkv too. Is there any other produse option I could choose that would enable this option.



thanks no need

Hello Jeff. This is what I have going on, see snap shots and I still can't select true velocity no need

Quote:
could you explain in more detail please Jeff.

I have a mkv in the time line and I am trying to produce mkv too. Is there any other produse option I could choose that would enable this option.

H.265 encoding which you have selected in snap3 pic requires a compatible video card, a GPU that supports H.265 encoding, or a CPU with integrated GPU that supports feature. Your i5-2320 CPU and AMD HD 6670 GPU do not support H.265 encoding so "Hardware video encoder" of true velocity will not be available.

To see if the PD SVRT option of true velocity can be activated, click the "Intelligent SVRT" button at the top of your snap3 pic and see if PD can resolve a suitable profile for you.

Jeff

970M support CUDA if you activate it.

That's wrong. It should appear like that ONLY for nVidia cards OLDER than Kepler generation (older than GT 6xx).
Newer cards have the NVENC hardware (Video Engine) separated from the general CUDA cores, and that's what is used.
What you should see there for your card is "OpenCL".

I bet that those laptop cards are not recognized properly by PD... and I keep repeating myself - laptops have compatibility issues and are always bad investments in regard to video editing.

There are some laptops good for video editing. You just have to pay.

https://www.wiknix.com/best-laptop-for-video-editing-2015/

I think that Desktop computers have more options, you can completely choose all of the components of a desktop computer. Laptops are one size fits all, no choice of the components. Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

Well, yes the good ones usually are expensive. That's why is a bad investment - compared to a similar perf desktop

So, I have also been having issues with using the Hardware video encoder function on PD14. Back in the day, I was using PD10 and for a while the hardware acceleration worked great. I stopped using PD for a while then a year or so later I tried to use it but the hardware video encoder function was no longer working(the option was grayed out). I went to the forums and I was told, PD10 was my problem and that I needed to get an updated version(PD14). I upgraded to 14, i'm using Windows 10, I have an Nvidia GTX460 and I can't use that function. It is kinda frustrating because that was one of the main features I loved about PD and it used to work fine, but now it doesn't.

If my only option is to get a new GPU, I was looking at upgrading to a GTX950, does anybody know if that card should work? I believe someone on here said you need to have h.265 compatability for True Velocity 5 to work(I don't get why that is needed if I am encoding to h.264, but I am no techy).