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wolfysluv [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Oct 21, 2009 17:49 Messages: 9 Offline
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Hi. I know this must be a question asked by people a million times. So I'm really sorry for asking it myself. But I've researched off and on for years ago this and still have been ishy on what the answer is. People always answer other peoples same question with long, long explanations. Which the time and education is much appreciated ... there is never a direct answer within the comments. Now that I'm dealing with a later version of Power Director and HD and 4k... I'm even more in the dark and I definately needing a direct answer.

My question is simple. When I produce a movie file, what option should I choose when I am working with the following video files. I know to keep it the same so there is little to no conversion. But I am having SO much trouble matching things and the quality is not coming out well.

I am making AVCHD disks since I dont have a bluray burner by the way (dont know what setting to burn on either).

1) 1920x1080/60p, MP4, [18565 bitrate] (Samsung Note 4 camera)

2) 3840x2160 (30P fps I think)), mp4 (same device)

and 3) AVCHD (.m2ts) 1080i, it says 29 fps in the details of the video file properties, [bitrate 22305] (Sony TX10 camera)



Another issue now that I'm here. I'm a little dumbfounded by my Note 4 that takes 4k. When I do, and upload it to YouTube or put it on an AVCHD disk (granted I dont know what I'm doing with the options there), its jittery. Lots of artifacte and annoying. I mean even if my computer and screen and tv aren't up to 4K, wouldn't it'd be clear and smooth on YT? Everyone elses 4k is when I view it. I'm wondering why that is. I'm wondering if I should just stick with recording 1080/60p or something and not recording in 4k. I just thought itd be good to for whenever I am caught up wtih 4k equipment, ya know? Rebecca Stout
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Senior Contributor Location: Clarksville, TN Joined: Dec 29, 2010 01:20 Messages: 1054 Offline
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hello.

welcome to the forum.

how may I help you?



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dealing with a later version of Power Director and HD and 4k...


which version of PD?



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I am making AVCHD disks since I dont have a bluray burner by the... ya know?


I am assuming you'll burn to a DvD and play it in a Blu-ray player?



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1) 1920x1080/60p, MP4, [18565 bitrate] (Samsung Note 4 camera)

2) 3840x2160 (30P fps I think)), mp4 (same device)




there is equivalent bitrate settings in the Produce - Mpeg4

make sure to set project aspect ratio to 16:9.

if you don't like then create your own custom profile...

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/42272.page

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/42322.page



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3) AVCHD (.m2ts) 1080i, it says 29 fps in the details of the video file properties, [bitrate 22305] (Sony TX10 camera)


eventhough the source file is 1080i (interlaced) for better produce in 1080p.



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Another issue now that I'm here. I'm a little dumbfounded by my Note 4 that takes 4k. When I do, and upload it to YouTube or put it on an AVCHD disk (granted I dont know what I'm doing with the options there), its jittery. Lots of artifacte and annoying...


I have Note 3 and I do match the video bitrate which is 48.5Mb/sec, and it comes out great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tEB7YaH5Nw

go ahead and attach the sample Note 4 4k videos to look at...

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/41076.page



happy, happy, joy, joy...

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wolfysluv [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Oct 21, 2009 17:49 Messages: 9 Offline
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Yes happy happy happy! Thank you so much. Such wonderful help.

I can't believe I left out what PowerDirector I have. Not to mention its not truly the latest. It is 12.

Yes burning to regular DVD but making it an AVCHD formatted one so it will play HD in a bluray player.

I didn't know that about the i and p quality outcome that you told me! Neat.


1) When shooting the 1920x1080/60p MP4 (although it does have a 30p setting I could choose) which of the two options would I choose in Produce. Would I choose mp4 1920x1080/24p or the 1920x1080/30p?

2) With my sony camera that shoots .m2ts 1080i, it says 29 fps in the details of the video file properties, so should I choose H.264 AVC 1920xx1080 24p or 60p in the produce?

3) In as far as my Note 4's 4K mp4, videos on computer or on AVCHD disk being jittery ... you said "I have Note 3 and I do match the video bitrate which is 48.5Mb/sec". I am unsure as to how or where to do that. My Note 4 4k setting is 3840x2160 with a bitrate of 288kbps listed in the file properties. Would that be a bit rate of 28.8mbs and where do I find to match that? Interesting ... I researched online and it says my camera does this "4K Ultra HD at 30 frames per second with a bit rate of 48 Mbps (High profile H.264)"


Rebecca Stout
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Senior Contributor Location: Clarksville, TN Joined: Dec 29, 2010 01:20 Messages: 1054 Offline
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1) When shooting the 1920x1080/60p MP4 (although it does have a 30p setting I could choose) which of the two options would I choose in Produce. Would I choose mp4 1920x1080/24p or the 1920x1080/30p?

2) With my sony camera that shoots .m2ts 1080i, it says 29 fps in the details of the video file properties, so should I choose H.264 AVC 1920xx1080 24p or 60p in the produce?


well, it's ALL up to you.

experiment to see which one you like.

just a rule of thumb, higher the bitrate that is equal to the original will be better than less.

there's a saying in IT - 'garbage in garbage out'

excellent video source then the output is excellent to so so.

so so video source, crappy output.

I never had a good experience with 24p. it's choppy, so i do leave 'em to the Pros.

stick with 30p. eventhough the source is either 24p or 60p.



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3) In as far as my Note 4's 4K mp4, videos on computer or on AVCHD disk being jittery ... you said "I have Note 3 and I do match the video bitrate which is 48.5Mb/sec". I am unsure as to how or where to do that. My Note 4 4k setting is 3840x2160 with a bitrate of 288kbps listed in the file properties. Would that be a bit rate of 28.8mbs and where do I find to match that? Interesting ... I researched online and it says my camera does this "4K Ultra HD at 30 frames per second with a bit rate of 48 Mbps (High profile H.264)"


attached is How to on creating Custom Profiles to include 60p. experiment and choose the one you like. just a reminder, garbage in garbage out.

288 Kb/sec is equal to 0.288 Mb/sec.
 Filename
20150605_1437_13.mp4
[Disk]
 Description
how to create custom profiles in PD12
 Filesize
8890 Kbytes
 Downloaded:
245 time(s)
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wolfysluv [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Oct 21, 2009 17:49 Messages: 9 Offline
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This is live saving lol. Thank you Rebecca Stout
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