Hi,

I'm in PAL country too as you can see, but I have PD set to NTSC - always have.

But - I am only making videos for display on web/monitors, at least this is my current choice.



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I was wondering if the frame rates in PD have NTSC and PAL next to them to denote what is normally used in those regions rather than the format that PD is expecting you to import. Will try setting my default to 30fps and see what happens.

Either option will work as long as you can play NTSC. I believe you can set the GoPro to PAL if that works better for you. I will verify that when I get home. Remember, if you film in NTSC and produce to PAL, you are also changes the frame size. __________________________________
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That's what's confusing me. My GoPro is set to record at 30fps in PAL, but PD doesn't have a matching setting, so I get a warning message when importing my GoPro footage. I just can't understand why PD doesn't have a setting of 30fps PAL that you can use to avoid such conflicts.

Hi scarecrow -

I don't have a GoPro, but I think you may be misreading something. If you set the camera to record in PAL you'll be able to select from 25fps or 50fps. If you choose NTSC you'll have the option of 30fps or 60fps. There are higher frame rates available but they will depend on whether you've set it to PAL (100fps) or NTSC (120fps).

PDR cannot match a setting of PAL @ 30fps because there's no such thing.

Could you post the MediaInfo for one of the GoPro clips in question? or at least the properties displayed in PDR or Windows?

Cheers - Tony

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I will have to have a look at the settings on the camera. I thought I had it set to PAL and 30fps, but if no such thing exists, then obviously I couldn't have.

Thanks for the help so far, just need to go back to the camera to check what I have done with the settings on it.

Check out this link: http://cbcdn1.gp-static.com/uploads/product_manual/file/490/UM_H4Black_ENG_REVD_WEB.pdf . Page 26 list the ntsc/pal settings available. You should be using the pal settings on that gopro hero.

I just set my GoPro 3+ to PAL and there was no 30 fps at 1080. I suspecf the 4 is the same. __________________________________
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Thanks for all the help guys. Looks like I have been making assumptions that have proved incorrect. Be looking for a history lesson next as to why the two systems, PAL and NTSC, should choose to use different frame rates. Be interesting to learn how the two different systems developed in the first place, bit like Betamax and VHS.

Quote: Thanks for all the help guys. Looks like I have been making assumptions that have proved incorrect. Be looking for a history lesson next as to why the two systems, PAL and NTSC, should choose to use different frame rates. Be interesting to learn how the two different systems developed in the first place, bit like Betamax and VHS.

The reason for the frame rate is dependant on the electric power system in that country.

PAL countries have 50 Hz line frequency.

NTSC countries have 60 Hz line frequency.

It goes back to the days of analog TV. The line ripple would show in the screen if the frame rate did not match the power frequency. It starts with Black & White TV before Color TV. Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

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Carl312,

You see sometimes line ripples in the movie, if the recorded frequecny of the camera (Frame Rate) is higher than this you seen in the movie (like lamps, TV Displays).

But it has become a little bit better, since higher frequency lamps (LED) can geht. They worked with "higher Frame Rate" Modulation.

We Live in Germany (PAL Region).


I Dediced nethertheless to Record Only in 60p (NTSC).

The Reason:

We use paralell a Camcorder and Smartphones to record movies.

But most the Smartphones only support 30p or 60p (like Note 4). (And they have great Video Quality for a Smartphone!!). You can use it "at the Moment", would my wife say.

I would like to Create Films of all my Clips, mixed in PD13 in One Movie.

You know, with a mix of 25p/50p/50i with 30p/60p/60i, the Produced Film are much stutters. This is a trouble.

With the same frame rate of 60p (or similar 30p) all looks smooth and beautiful.

If Smartphones would support PAL Regions (25p/50p/50i)) i would go back.....but when ?! ;

But...I think nothing changes. NTSC Regions Dominates !

Google (Youtube) comes from....?! NTSC
Samsung....comes from NTSC.
Apple....comes from NTSC.

And so on....

I don't care which standard... But they should agree ONE worldwide.

Know, it's a wish

blasiusxx brought up a good point to jog my memory about 50/60 hettz.

Pal users in pal countries should use pal settings. Here is a good reason why. Many years ago I traveled to a foreign country that uses pal with my ntsc Hi8 camcorder. Visited many places indoor. Fluorescent lighting is used everywhere in homes, buisnesses, museums, etc. The old fluorescent light ballasts are magnetic, not elecronic which is 50 hertz.

Viewing my videos for most indoor settings reveals flickering because of the 50/60 hertz mismatch. Many fluorescent light fixtures sold today uses the electronic ballasts which operates at a higher frequency. The issue is moot if you don't go to places that still use the older magnetic ballasts for fluorescent lighting to shoot video.

You're right, tomasc.

It's an compromise. We didn't film much indoor, more outdoor and at bright light.

blasiusxx - See this post. Some smartphones do capture at a variable frame rate close to pal standard: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/43435.page#224452 . The iphone captures at about 50 fps. There may be hope for pal country users who capture video with smartphones.

Thanks. But not mine and this of my wife, actually