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2nd hard drive, for assets. Better performance?
GGRussell [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Jan 08, 2012 11:38 Messages: 709 Offline
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Similar Kingston HyperX 120GB version in my 5yr old laptop which might be SATA1 or SATA2. I'd have to look up the specs.
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Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
Gary Russell -- TN USA
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Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 25, 2011 12:33 Messages: 6464 Offline
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EKSVid - We are both very knowledgeable about hardware and software. I don't disagree with you. You have provided some very interesting links for reading and watching. Thank you for all that. This original post was from someone who asked a simple question. The answer is yes in which we and all the contributors all agree on. As users and contributors on this forum, most of us do not voice our opinion and just answer the question but sometimes feel that we need to back up what we say with links, etc. That is what you and I did. The threads strayed from Barry's original question: Eugene advocated hard drive partitioning and benchmarking to a man who never had more than one hard drive on his computer who said to you that he is not that computer literate.

We all end up trying to get Barry to do the right thing and answer all his questions but in the end he did what he want and not what each of us would like to see him do. It end up with Eugene spending a lot of money in which he regretted. We both have ssd and have better computers than what many senior contributors here have. I don't put this in my profile and refuse to debate laptops, ssd, video cards with those few individuals who think they know it all. From my answers to posts over the years, most people can guess my hardware.

Three years ago I can create a 3hr 1080 bd in less than 1 hour with smart rendering. Today I shoot 1080/60p and 30p so all that has to be rerendered if creating a bd. My workfow is heavier now. We will continue to answer user questions. I end up with quite a few 50 thread posts and continue to answer those if progress is being made.

GGRussell - Your ssd score is not ran at the default of 5 and 1000mb but that really doesn't matter. Interesting for sata 6.

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AlS
Senior Member Location: South Africa Joined: Sep 23, 2014 18:07 Messages: 290 Offline
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I found the simplest is a MB that supports SATA3.
Then an SSD drive with Win8.1 and PD13 (I unfortunately also have other software on it).
Then 2x1Tb 7200rpm SATA3 drives in a Raid0 which appears as a single 2Tb drive but FAST. I just use folders, not partitions, to manage. All Internal hardware.
Last but not least BACKUP. I have an external Seagate USB3 2TB and use Paragon Backup (free) for full and incremental backups so I can do partial or full restore.

My PC

MB Intel DH87MC

CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i54670CPU @ 3.40GHz with on-board graphics Intel®HDGraphics4600 2Gb

8Gb DDR3 1600mhz Memory

2 X 1Tb WD Blue Hard Drive WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache - RAID 0

SSDisk SanDisk Extreme II SDSSDXP-120G-G25 2.5" 120GB SATA III

Win 8.1 64bit - boots up in <10 sec. It's a basic systen with no Graphics card, It works fine with PD13 but I haven't tried 4k editing. Next upgrade memory to 16Gb and I believe performance improves bu turning off Virtual Memory.

So I would advise to go SSD for your C: (Look at Samsung XP941 256GBDrive) and Raid 0 HDDs before anything else.

I assume my system is too light for 4k and I would have to upgrade to a Core i7 cpu??

Al

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Win 10 64, Intel MB DH87MC, Intel i5-4670 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 16Gb DDR3 1600, 128Gb SSD, 2x1Tb WDBlue 7200rpmSATA6, Intel 4600 GPU, Gigabyte G1 GTX960 4GB, LG BluRay Writer
Myk
Senior Member Location: The Hartland of Michigan Joined: Feb 05, 2015 16:09 Messages: 205 Offline
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Quote: I needed to put the drive inside, my office is small, and I have so many wires tucked under my station I simply must resist more dongles, USB cables, and no more little lights!


You ain't alone, Bud. frown

Just picked up a SanDisk 250g for $85 last weekend.

Been wanting to install one for a long time.

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PowerSpec G310
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Myk
Senior Member Location: The Hartland of Michigan Joined: Feb 05, 2015 16:09 Messages: 205 Offline
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I got the SSD installed, OS transferred, and am ready to play. It was 240gb instead of 250. .
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Never, under any circumstances, combine a laxative and sleeping pill on the same night.

PowerSpec G310
ASRock Extreme 6 A85X
AMD A10 6800K Quad Core Processor 4.1GHz
16GB DDR3-1600 RAM
EVGA GTX960 Super OC GPU
Windows 7 Pro
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For those (like Me and Eugen157) that have a computer that has SATA II (no SATA III) this might be interesting.

Upgrade:
You need an available PCIe slot (IT HAS TO BE 2.0) Some mobo support 2.0 but not on all PCIe ports - so make sure you have an open PCIe port with specification V2.0 available.

$14 - $20 to buy a Internal 6Gbps PCI-Express Card (I got the SYBA Part Number: SY-PEX40039) but others should work also. READ customer reviews!!! Some users have clashes with their hardware.

My PC uses Windows 8 and needed no drives for this card - all I needed to do was to plug the card into and empty PCIe slot (I had an open x16 slot), connect my SSD SATA cable to the card and make sure that the boot order was still correct in the BIOS. (I would always recomend FULL backups before you start).

Done.


Results:
Before:





After:



The read speed increased quite a bit.
The write speed stayed the same.

"My" Conclusion:
I think I see my SSD's limits now instead of the SATA II limits as before.
GGRussell has a faster Kingston SSD - so, if you use a faster SSD (like his or the Samsung's or Crucial drives then I would expect even better results).

userbenchmark.com confirms this differnce:

http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Kingston-SSDNow-V300-240GB-vs-Kingston-HyperX-3K-240GB/1817vs1818

You can send me one of the faster drives, if you want me to test them


Note.
PCIe speed (500 MBps) is lower than SATA III speed but still a lot faster that SATA II.
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Win8.1 Pro x64 / Dual x5670 / 24GB / GTX960 4GB / 240GB SSD + 640GB HDD / PD13 Ultimate
Eugen157
Senior Contributor Location: Palm Springs area, So.CA Joined: Dec 10, 2012 13:57 Messages: 662 Offline
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Very impressive, and not expensive either. I saw the cards at NewEgg starting at around $20 and getting 4 1/2 stars. I will order one and install it next time I have to dig into the PC.



Thanks for sharing



Eugene 73s, WA6JZN ex DL9GC
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