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I am frustrated by the options in the "insert on selected track" menu; when the CTI isn't at the end of the timeline.

I wish there was an option to put the selected clips at the end of the current timeline; because when you move a clip to the timeline the CTI remains where it was when you inserted the clip;it doesn't move to the end of the timeline. That means when you try to add another clip; with the "insert..." option, the drop down appears and offers options to put it where the CTI is; but doesn't offer to put it at the end of the timeline. So every time I insert a clip I have to move the CTI to the end of the timeline, so the next clip will go there when I click "Insert..." Michael
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Quote: I am frustrated by the options in the "insert on selected track" menu; when the CTI isn't at the end of the timeline.

I wish there was an option to put the selected clips at the end of the current timeline; because when you move a clip to the timeline the CTI remains where it was when you inserted the clip;it doesn't move to the end of the timeline. That means when you try to add another clip; with the "insert..." option, the drop down appears and offers options to put it where the CTI is; but doesn't offer to put it at the end of the timeline. So every time I insert a clip I have to move the CTI to the end of the timeline, so the next clip will go there when I click "Insert..."


Hi mikecox,
I can understand your frustration, you need to click on the end of a clip/track to move the slider before using, Right Click (on clip in Library)>Insert on Selected Track.
I use click and drag to place a clip on any track - have you used that method? Highlight with a left mouse click and drag the clip down to any displayed track. You can also multiple select clips in the library and drag all of them down to a track you want.

Dafydd
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Quote: I am frustrated by the options in the "insert on selected track" menu; when the CTI isn't at the end of the timeline.

I wish there was an option to put the selected clips at the end of the current timeline; because when you move a clip to the timeline the CTI remains where it was when you inserted the clip;it doesn't move to the end of the timeline. That means when you try to add another clip; with the "insert..." option, the drop down appears and offers options to put it where the CTI is; but doesn't offer to put it at the end of the timeline. So every time I insert a clip I have to move the CTI to the end of the timeline, so the next clip will go there when I click "Insert..."


I use click and drag to place a clip on any track - have you used that method?


Yes, but the "snap" feature is very sensitive; so if I don't sneak up on the CTI and, very gently, nudge the clip into place it overshoots and overlays; and deliver the drop down; which does not include an option to "snap to clip", or allow me to back away and try again.

So I end up having to let go of the clip and starting over; a frustrating and time consuming process, especially if your moving a lot of clips and keeping missing the snap. That's why I prefer the "insert..." option; I just have to remember to move the CTI to the end of the clip; if that's where I want the new clip.

I suppose I could always drop the clip then highlight the gap and delete it; that would cause the clip to, effectively, snap when the gap closed.

btw I've never seen a "DROP" key on a computer keyboard. How do you use the shortcut keys in the "insert..." drop down?

EDIT: I just figured out "DROP"; it isn't a key, it means "drop", and in hold down the Ctrl while you drop it item.

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Michael
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I use the method of dragging and I think quite easy to fit the clip where I want, expanding the timeline is quite easy.
The clip fits the self join, start or end of the clip.
If you want to drag first and then fit, drag to another track and then set the drag to the right place.
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I use the method of dragging and I think quite easy to fit the clip where I want, expanding the timeline is quite easy.
The clip fits the self join, start or end of the clip.
If you want to drag first and then fit, drag to another track and then set the drag to the right place.
Note: If you click on a clip and STOP the CTI goes to the beginning of this clip, need a way to insert new clip in the exact position.


Not sure I understand completely, but it sounds like what your saying is that if I expand the timeline the snap option will work better.

I installed PD on my laptop because it is more powerful than my desktop, but I am using a pen tablet on that machine. Maybe that is part of the problem. The new track ball; which is what I have on my other computer, arrived today so I'm going to switch to that and see if the snap problem improves. Michael
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Yes, but the "snap" feature is very sensitive;


Hi Mike

You can disable the "Snap" in the Preferences area





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Yes, but the "snap" feature is very sensitive;


Hi Mike

You can disable the "Snap" in the Preferences area

Thanks for your response but that option would only made matters worse.

The problem I am experiencing with snap is that it isn't strong enough; not that it is active. I would like to see an option that would make it stickier; as it were, so that it wasn't so easy to push past the snap point; into the the next clip. Michael
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Yes, but the "snap" feature is very sensitive;


Hi Mike

You can disable the "Snap" in the Preferences area

Thanks for your response but that option would only made matters worse.

The problem I am experiencing with snap is that it isn't strong enough; not that it is active. I would like to see an option that would make it stickier; as it were, so that it wasn't so easy to push past the snap point; into the the next clip.

The only suggestion I have is go slow with dragging the clip on the timeline.

PD does show a black line (on timeline) when you are in contact with the start or end of the clip. When you see the black line release the left mouse button.

You can even line up a clip on another track using the black line.

I made a short demo. Yes, I used images, works the same with videos.

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Yes, but the "snap" feature is very sensitive;


Hi Mike

You can disable the "Snap" in the Preferences area

Thanks for your response but that option would only made matters worse.

The problem I am experiencing with snap is that it isn't strong enough; not that it is active. I would like to see an option that would make it stickier; as it were, so that it wasn't so easy to push past the snap point; into the the next clip.

The only suggestion I have is go slow with dragging the clip on the timeline.

PD does show a black line (on timeline) when you are in contact with the start or end of the clip. When you see the black line release the left mouse button.

You can even line up a clip on another track using the black line.

I made a short demo. Yes, I used images, works the same with videos.

Thanks for taking the to make the tutorial. It was very helpful I will watch for that line. Michael
Lr, Ps, PD365, Canon 60D and 70D, Speedlite 430EX II
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