Hi Dafydd Bevan

Many Thanks for your reply.
Ran tests as instructed using the Nature.mpg
Both tests ran Ok, with a Burn successful msgbox.

Test1: Created a Folder call My Video/AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS.
AUDIO_TS folder is empty
VIDEO_TS folder has the files;
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1.VOB

Test2: create a DVD, when played on my DVD player I see the monopoly board and it displays a moving preview of the Nature.mpg
Selecting play only plays 2 second worth of sound and no movie.

Only extra message I received was when adding the Nature.mpg to the timeline is said it was conveting the file to PAL from NTSC, I dont get this with my video files.

I don't know if that tells you anything.

Many Thanks again

Mark

Hi again

I pulled out the manual for my DVD, and this is what it says for Recorded Disks

DVD-R/RW Finalized Version 1.1 of the DVD Video Recording Format
DVD-R DL Finalized Version 1.2 of the DVD Video Recording Format

Do you think, anyone, that the Version 1.1. or 1.2 is an issue here, do you know what version PD10 make's it's DVD's


Thanks

Mark

Hi Mark,
1. Please place the DVD test disc into your PC's disc drive.
2. Does the auto-play function in the PC's disc player - does the video display correctly?
3. Yes/No? If no, then please right click on the disc drive and Explore the contents.
4. Locate the vob files and play them using a player on your PC.
5. Did they play? Did the Nature vob file play?


Thanks

Dafydd

Hi Dafydd Bevan

Yes to all, but then all my DVD played OK on the PC, XBOX etc
Just not my DVD player

Many Thanks

Mark

Quote: Just a note, I have had expensive DVD players that puked up many a DVD it didn't agree with, and cheapos that would play anything you could jam in the tray. Makes no sense.

That about sums up the current situation.

Where's the "smart money" being placed? Is it on the DVD player or the discs? Is it on a failing DVD writer with a laser that's burning incorrectly?

The testing you've carried out showed the issue wasn't to do with the content you had in your project. Localising the issue to the burn cycle and read of the disc by your player. However the information that Xbox reads the disc doesn't really come as a surprise, it's less picky than the DVD player and is similar to the Disc drive on your PC.

If it was me, I'd rip out the drive (from the PC) and put another in. You do need to test the disc on friends DVD players.

Just an opinion.

Dafydd

Mark,

You might try one last test while you are at it, use LPCM for audio when you have PD create the disc or folder. I've had two other DVD players that do not like PD Dolby, when disc is created with LPCM they play fine in those players. It's a far shot but everyone else is guessing too.

Jeff

You could also have an old standard (1.1) DVD player. i ran accross someone else with this issue. IMGBURN has a setting to use the old 1.1 standard to burn. Try that. I don't remember where it is, but its in the menu, somewhere after you add the files, before you burn.

Like Dafydd said, you just have to keep elliminating things, until you discover the culpret. Self Built PC - W7 Pro 64 bit w/ SP1
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Well many thanks for all you have tried to help.

It seems to me that when the VOB file is created to is not compatable with my DVD player, well at least the VOB file that is the whole movie, becase the title intro menu is also a VOB file and that plays OK, and plays the movie as a preview, so somthing is being created to the correct format.

If only i knew what was the difference in the the title VOB file, and the others were.

and becasue the first VOB file plays, it makes me think the burn proess is OK! I dont know really.

It does seem that I need to play about some more.

again many thanks for all your help.

Regards

Mark

Hi

OK I think I know what is happening here, and I need PD10 people to help, please.......

Within PD10 I product two mp4 files, these are my movies I’m trying to create a DVD for.

Within PD10 I create a new project and add these file to it and create a DVD, it will NOT play on my DVD player. (See pre posts)
In fact using the example movie within PD10 doesn't either. (See pre posting)

NOW here is the change....

I used AVS Video converter 8.1 and imported the same MP4 files and created a disk, and WOW it worked.
So what is happening here?

On AVS you can select DVD PAL High Quality (HQ 60/108 min. at 1 DVD/DL DVD Disk)
This is what I selected.
Very straight forward.

But I don't want to use AVS, I want to use PD10, it’s so great a product, just the DVD bit not working for me.
Does this give you any more ideas?
I would love to here your thoughts?

Many Thanks

Mark

PS: please don’t say use AVS, PD10 must be able to do this

Mark -

There's no way I'd say, "Use AVS"!

Surely... surely, using that converter is effectively the same as this suggestion http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/20926.page#111295

AVS would be converting the MPEG-4 files to MPEG-2, with frame size & bitrate set for standard DVD.

Surely, it's effectively like using the sample file - Nature.mpg - to burn to disc, even though that file isn't MPEG-2 DVD standard.

That is completely whacko. Whatever is inserted in the timeline ought to be rendered/authored in the same format during the Create Disc process... yet you're getting different results.

A mystery.

Cheers - Tony


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Hi ynotfish

I really think it is something to do with the creation of the VOB files and mpeg conversion compatibility, and may be PAL
I really don't know.

But it was suggested to try many things, and I thought, lets go outside of the box and try something different!

Same Hardware, same disks, same source files.

To buy AVS is another £50 which I don't want to get in to.

PD10 must be able to create a disk, that works for me ........... Please

Thanks very much for your continued help with this.

Mark

Quote: Hi ynotfish

I really think it is something to do with the creation of the VOB files and mpeg conversion compatibility, and may be PAL
I really don't know.

But it was suggested to try many things, and I thought, lets go outside of the box and try something different!

Same Hardware, same disks, same source files.

To buy AVS is another £50 which I don't want to get in to.

PD10 must be able to create a disk, that works for me ........... Please

Thanks very much for your continued help with this.

Mark

Mark, what TV format Country are you in?

Is your TV PAL or NTSC?

If you have your Powerdirector preferences set to NTSC, that is the DVD format that will be created. If you are a PAL country, then your low end DVD players will not play the NTSC DVD.

If your preferences are set to PAL, that is the DVD Format created.

So what Country are you in, PAL or NTSC?

Set your TV Mode in Preferences to your correct Country format.
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hi
I already have PAL selected as i am in the UK, is there anywhere else this needs setting?
See images attached

Many Thanks

Mark

Hi Mark,
Just out of curiosity please can you answer the following:

1. What make and model is your player?
2. When was it purchased new?
3. Have you played commercial video - regional settings, on your player?
4. Have you taken your project DVD and tried it out on a neighbour or friends DVD player?
5. What of the changes Jeff suggested?

Quote: Mark,

You might try one last test while you are at it, use LPCM for audio when you have PD create the disc or folder. I've had two other DVD players that do not like PD Dolby, when disc is created with LPCM they play fine in those players. It's a far shot but everyone else is guessing too.

Jeff

Dafydd

I produced my first dvd over the weekend and had the same problem...DVD player is a latest panasonic...Menu ok, select play, it only play's a few seconds of the video audio.....Ended up burning Video with another program..works fine then...

Hi TPLuK -

I don't have an explanation for you, but I know what I'd be doing next time you want to burn a DVD!

Give two guys the same job to do under the same conditions. One does the job & the other falls short. The first guy gets the job. The other gets the chop!

Cheers - Tony
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Hello Again.

This is an update:
I finially tried the DVD on my friends DVD player, and it worked.

It was an 8 year old Sony player.

But I still don't know why AVS works on my player and not PD10.
I did try Jeff idea but with no luck.

My DVD player is Panasonic SC-BT205

DVD-Video plays Region 2 or All.

Playable disc:
BD-Video:BD-ROM Version 2
BD-RE: Version 3 (Single Layer, Dual Layer), JPEG*6
BD-R Version 2 (Single Layer, Dual Layer)
DVD-RAM:
DVD Video Recording format,
AVCHD format*7, JPEG*4
DVD-R/DVD-R DL:
DVD-Video format*1, DVD-Video Recording
format*1, AVCHD format*1, 7, JPEG*4, MP3, DivX*8
DVD-RW:
DVD-Video format*1, DVD-Video Recording
format*1, AVCHD format*1, 7
+R/+RW/+R DL:
Video*1, AVCHD format*1, 7
DVD-Video:
DVD-Video format
CD-Audio:
CD-DA
CD-R/CD-RW:
CD-DA, JPEG*5, MP3, DivX*8
Optical pick-up: System with 2 lenses
Wave length: 782 nm (CDs)/662 nm (DVDs)/405 nm (BDs)
LASER Specification:
Class 1 LASER Product
Wave length: 782 nm (CDs)/662 nm (DVDs)/405 nm (BDs)
Laser power:
No hazardous

Any help would be great.

Many Thanks
Mark

I should have added that the * are
1 = Finalized is necessary

7 = AVCHD Format v1.0

Thanks

Mark

Hi

Do you think I have reached the end of the road on this?

Has anyone got anything else to add

Many Thanks


Mark

Mark,

Your issue is rather strange and sounds very local to your SC-BT205 player. I’m at a loss and near the end of the road too. Could it be some form of region lock? Most players usually spit up a region lock code if that happens. Summary of your playback issue:

1) your PD created dvd's play on your XBOX and friends DVD player fine, just not on SC-BT205. Most XBOX's are actually region locked.
2) local commercial DVD's play fine, again region specific
3) a very simple dvd with nature.mpg with PD burnt DVD failed to play on SC-BT205 but plays on XBOX
4) burning the video folder with Imgburn still unsuccessfully played on your player, one of the best burn utilities. However, keep in mind the region code is stored in the file "VIDEO_TS.IFO" created by PD
5) both DVD-R and DVD+R discs won't play when created with PD
6) a PD created DVD with no menu does not work, that's about as basic as it gets

Quote: Another update, if I create a AVCHD DVD it works!

This could fit my scenario, BD and DVD region locks are different.

Quote: I used AVS Video converter 8.1 and imported the same MP4 files and created a disk, and WOW it worked.

Quote: I did burn a DVD using Windows Live Movie Maker and imported the mp4’s
And that worked!

AVS video converter wrote it's own region code as did Movie Maker. I'd maybe check the region code differences between the three discs and see if it provides any insight (many software tools for this). I did not see anything in the SC-BT205 versions of firmware that shed any light, most address BD playback issues, v1.9 8/31/2010 appears to be most recent.

Jeff

Hi Jeff


Many thanks for your reply

I will look at the region codes on the DVD's and see what differences there are.

Many Thanks again


Mark