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Help with transferring HD video from Canon HV40 to Power Director 8 Ultra
CHRIS [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jan 07, 2010 15:17 Messages: 1 Offline
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When trying to download video from my camera to Power Director 8 Ultra I get the same error message time and again. I've tried changing settings on the camera to no avail. The program recognizes the camera but will not accept the video. The message says that the ilink does not match the video format and therefore cannot be captured. The video was taken in hdv cinema mode. What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance for any help provided.
BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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I do not believe they are compatible.
I get the same message with my HV30 and had to go to an OEM version of a competitor to make it work. Frame drops, but it worked.
Is it SD or HD? If it's SD on an HD tape, that might be an issue.
The camera shoots both. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT
GEAtkins [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Nov 15, 2009 15:38 Messages: 25 Offline
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i don't know about this, but i want to jump in here because I'm curious.

According to the Canon site the Vixia HV40 records in MPEG2.

PD looks to support MPEG2 in both capturing and importing.

What am I missing here? I would hate to buy a future camcorder that I thought would work but doesn't.

Am I missing something in the specs that would cause an incompatibility?

Just wanting to learn.

Thanks

Glenn
BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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It just won't work, for me anyway.
It's not the format, there is some type of communication problem between the HV series, firewire, and PD.
It might be related to taping in SD on HD tape.
I may look into it tomorrow. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT
James Dotson
Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline
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Have you tried a different mode? I think Cinema Mode is 24fps, which I wouldn't think would even matter in PD's Capture, but that's all I can think of at the moment. I hope you get it figured out because that's exactly the camera I am hoping to have in a few months. __________________________________
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BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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Jaime, you must be mistaken, this is a TAPE camera.
It's fantastic quality, but for this. Maybe you mean another Canon camera, flash? HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT
James Dotson
Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline
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No, that's actually why I didn't think the format should matter, but as I understand it the tape models are the only ones that support true 24fps. The Flash models are simulated at 60i, I'm told.

I prefer MPEG2, but I wish camcorders would give us the option. The convenience of MPEG4 sometimes, or even high quality DV when needed. Oh, well. Didn't they just recently add support for Canon? Maybe there is still a bug in the system. I'll just have to wait until I have one to be much help here. __________________________________
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ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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I'm with Glenn on this one - interested to learn what the issue might be.

Canon HV30 info: http://www.canon.com.au/en-AU/For-You/Digital-Video-Cameras/LEGRIA-Video-Cameras/HV40

HDV info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV

PowerDirector support info:
http://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdirector/requirements_en_US.html (HV 30 not listed, but neither are many others)

http://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdirector/languages-formats_en_US.html

Hmmm - Tony
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BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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I shot some HD video today,
but PD will not capture this camera as anything but SD Mpeg2. I am not blaming PD! I just can't seem to get this right.
In addition, I have had to go the Device Manager 3 times, uninstall all the HID's, reboot, because the connection keeps disappearing.
A wise old sheep herder once told me, "tape is dead", then he made some sort a noise, sounded like "ynysybwl", then fell over atop his favorite ewe.
But I digress,
consider choosing another recording medium.

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HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT
James Dotson
Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline
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I would love to get a HDD camcorder, but the only option is MPEG 4. After reading this thread, it might be a better option anyways. __________________________________
CORNBLOSSOM
BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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How do you think I feel?!
My camera is not even recognized as HiDef DV. It's greyed out.
But not even HDVSplit will see it.
Might be Windows 7, might be the camera,
might be Powerdir...naaaaah, couldn't be! HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Guys -

It appears you're not alone. People all over the place with a variety of software and systems are talking about similar issues...

HV30 compatibility with systems and software

http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/59/858092

http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=10874 (someone recommended HDVSplit there)

http://forums.cnet.com/5208-7594_102-0.html?threadID=288104&tag=forum-w;forums06 (has a few ideas for solutions & one idiot)

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=177&modelid=16206#DownloadDetailAct (Canon HV30 manual download - pp.76-77 - capture/transfer)

Cheers - Tony
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BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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I managed to edit the mpeg 2 capture template, at the same time as the connection was working. I'd tell you how if I knew how I did it.
However, I must be suspicious of the files I created.
The properties say 1080, but it's not m2T as I thought it should be.

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HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT
vn800rider
Senior Contributor Location: Darwen, UK Joined: May 15, 2008 04:32 Messages: 1949 Online
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Barry already knows I don't have this type of camera (no hint of smugness there : ) - so I have no direct experience but it might be illuminating to scan through these :-

http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/07/13/canon-hv20-24p-pulldown/

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-vixia-hv40-hv30-hv20-hv10/124475-capturing-hv30-using-fcp-5-0-a.html

http://strony.aster.pl/paviko/hdvsplit.htm

Cheers
Adrian Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated. (see below)
Confucius
AMD Phenom IIX6 1055T, win10, 5 internal drives, 7 usb drives, struggling power supply.
James Dotson
Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline
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Well, now I'm just confused. I thought the HDV cameras recorded in real 24fps Cinema Mode, but looking back now it still says 60i. I'll have to take a closer look at those links. Looks like a good read. __________________________________
CORNBLOSSOM
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Jaime -

I have some (sort of) good news. You may be confused, but you're definitely not alone! I've just been trying to clarify a pile of disc formatting information for myself (partly in response to a PM)... When I started digging into it to make my response clear and accurate, it showed me what an absolute nightmare all this format-war stuff has left us with.

Adrian - nice to see you back on the job! Missed your pithy interjections. Very interesting links.

Love this quote: "If you're not confused, you've misunderstood the question."

Cheers - Tony
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vn800rider
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That's because I've not been very pithed lately. Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated. (see below)
Confucius
AMD Phenom IIX6 1055T, win10, 5 internal drives, 7 usb drives, struggling power supply.
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Well, my friend, it'th about time you were. Why don't you fly over for a pith up?
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James Dotson
Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline
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Definitely, the format wars is why I avoid MPEG4 as much as possible until the final encoding. Seems that every camera has a different version of MPEG4 and none of them work together. __________________________________
CORNBLOSSOM
BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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Ok, here is the latest...
The camera is fully working. I can shoot HD, and after reinstalling the HID's thru the Device Manager, PD can see my HV30 as HDV device.
Now, it pretends to capture by giving me an empty file, AVCHD no less!
I am shooting MPEG HD, so I am at a loss.
Additionally, HDV Split does not function in Windows 7.
HDV Split works on my wife's XP computer, and that is how I determined that my camera's i-link is apparently working.

Updates as they occur. Now looking for HDV capture freeware for W7!
HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT
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