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Effect track fade in?????
Solorider [Avatar]
Newbie Location: USA Joined: Apr 02, 2009 11:59 Messages: 13 Offline
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I have a master track video with a transition in it, (burning transition) in the fx track I have (color edge), I have a still pic in the first and only pip track and some text in the text track. Is there a way to fade in the FX track so the FX does not snap on like a light switch, I would like the FX to ease into view??
CLD [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Mar 23, 2007 02:05 Messages: 925 Offline
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Hi Shawn,

I checked out your issue and the answer is "No", since the lowest degree available for this effect is 1, not 0. I will actually pass along this information to RD, because I think that users should have more flexibility.

However, a proposed work around might be to:

1. Split the video where you want the color edge effect to applied (i.e. the beginning point and then end point).
2. Apply the color edge to split clip (i.e. do not place it on the effect track, but drop it on the slip clip instead.)
3. Add a fade transition at the split points.

It actually works quite well if you play around with the settings a bit. See the attached screen shot for better explanation. Hope that works for you in the mean time.

I know that you have the fire transition in there as well, but you can apply the split after that transition is complete maybe.

If any of our more experienced users have a better idea, please help. I know they are usually more creative than me :

David
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Solorider [Avatar]
Newbie Location: USA Joined: Apr 02, 2009 11:59 Messages: 13 Offline
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I'll give that a shot, thanks so much.
Shawn
vn800rider
Senior Contributor Location: Darwen, UK Joined: May 15, 2008 04:32 Messages: 1949 Offline
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Hi Shawn,

Much the same idea but perhaps you could produce the effect clip as a stand alone short clip and then either use it in a PiP track with fade in/out or insert it in the main track prefacing it with a fade or other transition. It might give you more possibilities/control????

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Solorider [Avatar]
Newbie Location: USA Joined: Apr 02, 2009 11:59 Messages: 13 Offline
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OK, so splitting the track and putting the EFX and transition diredtly to the master track video worked well.
The small fade transitions didn't work very well as the Master Track was just a split of one continous video. It was a big help to start a new project to practice on and then just not save it. Thanks all!
Shawn
7Phil7 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jun 23, 2009 19:43 Messages: 2 Offline
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I too wanted a solution to the 'light switch' effect when a special effect is used just as shawn mentioned above. Doing a search for this brought me to this thread.

A work around solution may well work but in today's environment one might reasonably expect the actual effect itself to have that capability built in to it from the beginning. Surely the writers of the software would be aware that a smooth transition from no effect to various degrees of that effect is an essential requirement. It takes long enough creating the video itself without taking more time messing around trying to correct/fix another oversight.

Let us not settle for second best or near enough is good enough.

Being a newbie to all of this I thought I might be unaware of how to adjust the settings for the beginning of an effect. Alas I now know that is not the case.

This also continues as one may want to have several effects continuously happening along the timeline. At each change the change is clearly and painfully noticeable. It tends to make the videomaker look less than competent or clumsy. One way around that is to try and have the effect change take place at the same time as a transition but that is not always convenient.

Any chance this fade in to the effect can be included in an upgrade?

CLD, How did you go with - "I will actually pass along this information to RD, because I think that users should have more flexibility."?

Your suggestion may be ok for some but many will not see splitting the clip again as the way to go. On top of that I don't understand the rest of the instructions/suggestion.
Let's get the effect to be able to fade in as a standard part of its funtionality as it should have been in the first place. Let's not settle for 1 is what you get when 0 is what is required.

Let us aim for what is best - not what is not even second best!


Phil.

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Cranston
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Aug 17, 2007 02:26 Messages: 1667 Offline
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Even though I agree, and yes, there are many refinements that I’d also like to see Cyberlink incorporate into PD, I actually just tried CLD’s suggestion, as well as Adrian’s “other option” above, and both work quite well. And this once again brings up the concept of pre-production as a valuable method to expand ones options when editing with PD7.

Many here have often endorsed the concept of pre-assembling effects laden sequences and then producing to Avi, or Mpeg, or whatever, and then inserting these pre-produced elements back into one’s production.

Yes, it would be nice if one could just throw everything into the timelines, and have every possible effect or whatever we could possibly conceive of, be accomplished in PD7 with little more than a single mouse click.
I mean a very good friend of mine can do just about exactly that with his Final Cut Pro editor. Then again, he is often amazed that I can duplicate most anything he can do, though it does require a little extra work and some pre-production.

But even though I do have to split tracks here and there. And even though I do have to plan ahead now and then. And even though I do have to sometimes close my main project to open a new project to create the first part of a desired element for a sequence (like that flipping effect that simulates the effect that was in the Superman movie, that I demonstrated and uploaded to SMWOV for you 7Phil7)
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/6861.page
I usually find that the results are worth the effort.

Yes, I do have to do all those things because my PD7 doesn’t have all the refinements that my friend Jared’s software does (though upon viewing some of my PD7 productions, he often asks… How did you do that? )
Still, as a PD7 owner, I do have one thing that Jared and his $1300.00 program doesn’t have. And that’s that extra $1200.00 in my pocket.

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