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Hardware For Video Editing? Tips and Hints?
elscybe [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Dec 30, 2015 05:44 Messages: 22 Offline
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Good Morning.

After I retired, I resumed my Video Editing hobby.
They are Video Edits, not very frequent and focused on family moments.
It happens that my current PC is almost retired, too.
So, I'm researching parts for assembling a new, more upgraded PC so it has a long life.
As you are habituated and have more expertise than I, I relate the items (Hardware) that I am researching and I request to you, please, that if you have tips and suggestions, guide me.

MB: Gigabyte GA-Z170N-WIFI ou GA-Z270N-WIFI
CPU: Core i7-6700K ou Core i7-7700K (Or one of the two without the "K" ie without overclocking option).
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 (Water)
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT (16GB) (2x8GB) DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200)
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
GRAPHICS CARD: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti GAMING, 4GB GDDR5 or EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti SC GAMING, 4GB GDDR5.
Monitor, HD, PSU and Case, I already have.

Thank you so much.

Note: CyberLink PowerDirector Ultimate 15 - 15.0.2509.0 (64-bit) Director Suite 365 | Gigabyte Z370N Wifi | i7-8700 | IGPU Intel UHD 630 | GPU SAPPHIRE PULSE Radeon™ RX 580 8GB (Next Acquisition) | 32GB RAM | 1TB SSD | 2TB HDD | Monitor LG 4K IPS 27UD59-B
stevek
Senior Contributor Location: Houston, Texas USA Joined: Jan 25, 2011 12:18 Messages: 4663 Offline
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You forgot one important detail -- budget? What I've dome recently is to look at on line builders for gaming machines and thake a hint from them I used "CPU Solutions" to get some ideas. .
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elscybe [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Dec 30, 2015 05:44 Messages: 22 Offline
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stevek.
I agree with you.
However, I live in Brazil and in the second semester, I will go to the United States and I intend to buy the parts so I can build an updated PC.
It is difficult to bring something already assembled, as the value would be around $ 1,300 ~ $ 1,500 and the quota (limit of purchases customs) is $ 500 per person.
Thus, by bringing the parts to be assembled, I can better distribute the values according to the quota of each one of the family.
I saw on the site that it also has the parts I'm searching for.
I'm going to look very closely and I'm very grateful for the tip.
This setting I adapted from a setting I saw on the tonymacosx86 site.
I do not intend to run 100% MacOS. I'm going to run 100% Windows 10.
In addition to the Video Editing, my another hobby is learning other O.S., this setting will allow me to get to know MacOS, Linux, etc.

1) One of my questions is: is the configuration appropriate for PowerDirector Ultimate 15?
2) Although I have a FullHD monitor I am researching a 4K monitor because I would have better visual access of the timeline. Correct? If you have any indication ?!

Tks.

Note: I am not a gamer.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at May 26. 2017 14:58

Director Suite 365 | Gigabyte Z370N Wifi | i7-8700 | IGPU Intel UHD 630 | GPU SAPPHIRE PULSE Radeon™ RX 580 8GB (Next Acquisition) | 32GB RAM | 1TB SSD | 2TB HDD | Monitor LG 4K IPS 27UD59-B
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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elscybe,

Have you thought about buying a complete computer in the USA or maybe buying the parts to assemble one in the USA.

There are many electronic companies that sell either whole computer or parts to bult on.

For about $1500 USD, you can have a really fast computer for editing Video.

I do not know the currency exchange for your county and the USA, but I would almost bet the value in the USA is higher.

Amazon.com (USA) and Newegg.com (USA) are two of the better places to buy computers and parts. There are many other companies that sell computers and parts in the USA

. Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

elscybe [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Dec 30, 2015 05:44 Messages: 22 Offline
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Carl312 and stevek.

Due to the customs rules, I'd better bring the pieces and set up here in Brazil.
What about the monitor, please, what do you think?:
- Although I have a FullHD monitor I am researching a 4K monitor because I would have better visual access of the timeline.
-- Correct?
-- If you have any indication ?!

Thank you so much. Director Suite 365 | Gigabyte Z370N Wifi | i7-8700 | IGPU Intel UHD 630 | GPU SAPPHIRE PULSE Radeon™ RX 580 8GB (Next Acquisition) | 32GB RAM | 1TB SSD | 2TB HDD | Monitor LG 4K IPS 27UD59-B
tomasc [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 25, 2011 12:33 Messages: 6464 Offline
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Most of the name brand components sold in the U.S. are actually manufactured overseas. Do you think that you could buy the same components in Brazil for an equivalent or cheaper price? Perhaps? Maybe?

If a purchased component is damaged or defective you have to go through customs to get it replaced. You need a tech savy person if the pc doesn't boot up. The windows must be a Portuguese instead of an English version.
elscybe [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Dec 30, 2015 05:44 Messages: 22 Offline
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Quote ... Do you think that you could buy the same components in Brazil for an equivalent or cheaper price? Perhaps? Maybe? ...

tomasc.

Due to taxes, prices in Brazil are ~100% higher than US prices.

Some examples:
MB: USA $134,98 Brazil $260,88
SSD: USA $104,45 Brazil $207,18
GRAPHICS CARD: USA $139,99 Brazil $214,68

I will buy in Brazil the items that present the best cost-benefit ratio and in USA the items that truly present the best price.

Tks. Director Suite 365 | Gigabyte Z370N Wifi | i7-8700 | IGPU Intel UHD 630 | GPU SAPPHIRE PULSE Radeon™ RX 580 8GB (Next Acquisition) | 32GB RAM | 1TB SSD | 2TB HDD | Monitor LG 4K IPS 27UD59-B
tomasc [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 25, 2011 12:33 Messages: 6464 Offline
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Thanks for the education about the taxes on imported items sold in Brazil. You still have to be careful in the U.S. I once purchased a flexible keyboard at a computer expo in a foreign country. The vendor gave me the demo one that everyone twisted and abused. I was too nice to ask for one of the unopen boxed ones because I don't speak the language. It was broken and did not work once I tried it in the U.S. Can’t return it as that is not sold in the U.S. Other pc accessories from other vendors did work properly.

I think that you will do well buying in the U.S. Look for a Fry's or Microcenter and speak up if you are uncomfortable with the salesman.
Nighthawk [Avatar]
Newbie Location: Dunedin, NZ Joined: Apr 09, 2015 04:27 Messages: 15 Offline
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Quote Good Morning.

After I retired, I resumed my Video Editing hobby.
They are Video Edits, not very frequent and focused on family moments.
It happens that my current PC is almost retired, too.
So, I'm researching parts for assembling a new, more upgraded PC so it has a long life.
As you are habituated and have more expertise than I, I relate the items (Hardware) that I am researching and I request to you, please, that if you have tips and suggestions, guide me.

MB: Gigabyte GA-Z170N-WIFI ou GA-Z270N-WIFI
CPU: Core i7-6700K ou Core i7-7700K (Or one of the two without the "K" ie without overclocking option).
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 (Water)
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT (16GB) (2x8GB) DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200)
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
GRAPHICS CARD: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti GAMING, 4GB GDDR5 or EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti SC GAMING, 4GB GDDR5.
Monitor, HD, PSU and Case, I already have.


If you can use use parts out of your old computer it will help lowing your cost... (monitors sound cards hard drives etc) but most off the shelf computers now are good enough. So you don't need the most latest and greatest keeping up with the Jones computers...

Just a side note this is my set up:

http://www.wackywoodworks.co.nz/blog/video_editing.php Nighthawk Music : Wacky Wood Works
elscybe [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Dec 30, 2015 05:44 Messages: 22 Offline
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Quote ... If you can use use parts out of your old computer it will help lowing your cost...

Nighthawk.

I agree with you in part.
My current PC I rode in 2009/March.
Therefore: 8 years

MB: ASUS M3A78-EM (AM2)
CPU: AMD Phenom X3 8650--- AMD Phenom 8650 Triple-Core 2.3Ghz
RAM: 8GB DDR2
HDs: Seagate
--- ST31500341AS ATA Device
--- ST31000528AS ATA Device
--- ST32000542AS ATA Device
GRAPHICS: Radeon HD 3200 Graphics (256MB)
MONITOR: LG 23" M237WA on ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics - 1920x1080 pixels
BD READER: LG HL-DT-ST BDDVDRW GGC-H20L ATA Device
LAN (Gigabit) : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller

After mounting the NEW PC, I intend to adapt the OLD PC as an exclusive NAS.

Thank you very much.

NOTE:
Do you have any recommendations regarding Monitor 4K?
1) SAMSUNG - LU28E590DS/ZA 28" UE590 UHD Monitor
OR
2) LG - 27" Class 4K UHD IPS LED Monitor (27" Diagonal) - 27UD58P-B

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at May 28. 2017 10:24

Director Suite 365 | Gigabyte Z370N Wifi | i7-8700 | IGPU Intel UHD 630 | GPU SAPPHIRE PULSE Radeon™ RX 580 8GB (Next Acquisition) | 32GB RAM | 1TB SSD | 2TB HDD | Monitor LG 4K IPS 27UD59-B
tomasc [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 25, 2011 12:33 Messages: 6464 Offline
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A search of 4k monitors in this forum produced mixed dated results. For the best results you need to go outside this forum and check the review on those two monitors. Newer pricier 4k monitors can have hdr for example and other newer features. See this article: https://www.omnicoreagency.com/best-4k-monitors/ . The reviewer seem to forget about 21:9, hdr, etc. People, users can give opinions but you have to make up your mind.

I agree with your assessment that you need be buy new components instead of stripping anything off your 2009 vintage pc.
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I have ditched Intel and moved over to Ryzen. My current, and a lot cheaper but faster setup:



Ryzen5 1600 (6core 12threads,16M cache)

Gigabyte AB350M Gamer mobo

16GB DDR4 2400Mhz single stick memory (got 4 slots for upgrade)

Nvidia GTX660

128G Kingstone SSD + 1T Seagate HDD



At the moment my 1080p25 60Mbps rendering is at 1/2 (so 2minutes of video renders out in less than a minute) if i lower the bitrate to standard 15Mbps it is 1/3



I am thinking on a GPU upgrade like a 1050...and possibly another SSD for editing cache as the normal HDD is a bit slow on that



hope this helps
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