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How are you presenting your VHS captures?
BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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I know a few of you capture VHS from time to time, and they are 4:3 aspect ratio. There are several ways to present those tapes onto DVD or thumbdrive, I was wondering what gets the best reaction.

A) 4:3 with sidebars.

B) 4:3 over the same file, stretched to 16:9 and heavily blurred (like you see on TV sometimes). Basically 4:3 PIP in a widescreen.

C) 4:3 CLPV manipulated to look as 16:9, works better in some scenes than others.

D) Other?

NOTE: All 4:3 captures will be reduced in visual size a little to stay within the SAFE area to prevent loss in TV overscan.

My preference is "B", but I would like to hear from others. I will also present both to client and report back here.

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BarryTheCrab
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Now THAT is a clear, concise, measured response. A rarity here sometimes, but most welcomed. Do you "shrink" the visual footprint to prevent loss of picure due to TV overscan? Not sure if that is an issue with a mere file, I will see shortly and report back. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
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Quote A
Now THAT is a clear, concise, measured response. A rarity here sometimes, but most welcomed. Do you "shrink" the visual footprint to prevent loss of picure due to TV overscan? Not sure if that is an issue with a mere file, I will see shortly and report back.


I use the CLPV system to convert the 4:3 to 16:9. I learned about CLPV after asking how they got episodes of the old 1960s TV sit-com "I Dream Of Jeannie" into wide-screen without all the actors looking like they've raided the refridgerator! I was so impressed because I knew that the show was shot in 4:3 and the first season was even in monochrome. When a poster answered my query and told me about CLPV I decided to try it...... YEAH! ABSOLUTELY AMAZING! This'll breathe new life into that old VHS stuff! I reprocessed several old 4:3 vids I'd shot of Steamfest and Richmond Vale Railway Museum from over 20 years ago and uploaded them to YouTube under my Trams & Trains heading. Here's the link to one of them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIgEiY_4TwA The title of the video is SMR Loco #24 At Pelaw Main. December, 1996. It was originally shot on a Video-8 cam-corder in 4:3 aspect ratio and serves as a great example to answer your question, Barry!
BarryTheCrab
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Quote [I use the CLPV system to convert the 4:3 to 16:9. I learned about CLPV after asking how they got episodes of the old 1960s TV sit-com "I Dream Of Jeannie" into wide-screen without all the actors looking like they've raided the refridgerator! I was so impressed because I knew that the show was shot in 4:3 and the first season was even in monochrome. When a poster answered my query and told me about CLPV I decided to try it...... YEAH! ABSOLUTELY AMAZING! This'll breathe new life into that old VHS stuff! I reprocessed several old 4:3 vids I'd shot of Steamfest and Richmond Vale Railway Museum from over 20 years ago and uploaded them to YouTube under my Trams & Trains heading. Here's the link to one of them:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIgEiY_4TwA The title of the video is SMR Loco #24 At Pelaw Main. December, 1996. It was originally shot on a Video-8 cam-corder in 4:3 aspect ratio and serves as a great example to answer your question, Barry!
On the other hand, you could just have typed "C". HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
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Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Sometimes A, Sometimes C.

I do VHS to DVD capture on a VHS/DVD recorder. Most of them are 4:3 with sidebars Then some of the VHS tapes are 16:9.

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BarryTheCrab
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Some of these tapes were previously "copied" from film. I am going to keep the 4:3 aspect no matter what, due to the historic nature of a few of these. I am well familiar with CLPV, it's a handy tool for some applications, this time, no. I am thinking I could easily provide the client with both, even on a DL disc, let them decide. 4:3 with bars, or 4:3 within the blurred 16:9 (or CLPV!). Hmmm, just thinking out loud. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
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