Need to go to DVD from 1920x1080 Why does MPEG-2 DVD HQ 720x480-60 look better that CreateDiscVersi

Darp1

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Dec 08, 2016 14:42

I have produced in 1920x1080 (PD13), it is not my video, its graphics and videos from others have put in documentary. When output as 1080 WMV 10mbps it is very sharp. Knew would lose some going to DVD but need to as people have trouble downloading from Vimeo.

Have seen extreme differences in quality with similar mbps and resolution? When output to DVD there is really only one choice and its poor quality, and not just the DVD the file on disc is the same as the DVD.

Yet MPEG-2 DVD HQ 720x480-60 8mbps (same as what Create Disc Says) its acceptable quality. And the MPEG2 24 frame 720x480 looks even better (makes sense). In fact WMV 720x480 2 mbps looks better than teh DVD disc PD13 puts out.

Is there a reason for that? Is DVD disc lower mbps?

The bottom line is probably many here have created DVDs, how can I get the very best quality on DVD starting with 1920x1080 project?

I will be away from PC for a few hours after this.

Cheers

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James Dotson

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Dec 09, 2016 20:59

Probably has a lot to do with bit rate. I have never gotten a DVD to actually burn at 8 Mbps regardless of the settings I use. __________________________________
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Darp1

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Dec 10, 2016 12:12

Quote Probably has a lot to do with bit rate. I have never gotten a DVD to actually burn at 8 Mbps regardless of the settings I use.

Thanks Jaime, I have talked to another DVD reproduction house and they seem to think they can use the MPEG2 instead of a burnt disc.

Right now am trying to create a AVCHD DVD 4.7G Ran out of memory on first try, it is 1:17 long but it says 4172/4700mb at bottom left, so indicates it will fit. I am using (trying to use) Smartfit too.

1st try failed went to 10 gigs of memory and said not enough I have 16Gigs ram.

Before that I did 1/5th of it with ACVHD DVD-4.7 and the quality was excellent but 1.42Gigs, which seems too much but maybe it knows there was extra room to use?

Any pointers on how to produce the best quality std DVD with 4.7gigs will be greatky appreciated.

tomasc

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Dec 10, 2016 12:26

Quote Right now am trying to create a AVCHD DVD 4.7G Ran out of memory on first try, it is 1:17 long but it says 4172/4700mb at bottom left, so indicates it will fit. I am using (trying to use) Smartfit too.

1st try failed went to 10 gigs of memory and said not enough I have 16Gigs ram.

The windows message meant not enough hard disk space not ram memory.

James Dotson

Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline

Dec 10, 2016 13:58

Is the purpose to distribute a video? If MPEG 2 will work produce at the highest bitrate that will fit and burn it as a data dvd. If you need a dvd-video format your only real option is to use the highest quality source video and burn at high quality.

You could also burn to a folder and use the dvd 8.5GB option. Then use a third party software to shrink it to fit a 4.5GB disc. If you use AVCHD-DVD you will need a Blu-Ray player, so you may loose compatibility for users. __________________________________
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Darp1

Member Location: USA Joined: Nov 18, 2013 10:13 Messages: 122 Offline

Dec 10, 2016 14:04

Quote

Quote Right now am trying to create a AVCHD DVD 4.7G Ran out of memory on first try, it is 1:17 long but it says 4172/4700mb at bottom left, so indicates it will fit. I am using (trying to use) Smartfit too.

1st try failed went to 10 gigs of memory and said not enough I have 16Gigs ram.

The windows message meant not enough hard disk space not ram memory.

Thanks, I did it again and it worked, AVCDV ended up only about 3 G on DVD, can see 40% of disc is left. the quality is quite good, much better than DVD "Create Disc" But someplaces it shows a skirming moray like effect. Most places in video very goodquality. yet does not play in dvd player, I can play from disc however as file.

Darp1

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Dec 10, 2016 14:05

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Darp1

Member Location: USA Joined: Nov 18, 2013 10:13 Messages: 122 Offline

Dec 10, 2016 14:18

Quote Is the purpose to distribute a video? If MPEG 2 will work produce at the highest bitrate that will fit and burn it as a data dvd. If you need a dvd-video format your only real option is to use the highest quality source video and burn at high quality.

You could also burn to a folder and use the dvd 8.5GB option. Then use a third party software to shrink it to fit a 4.5GB disc. If you use AVCHD-DVD you will need a Blu-Ray player, so you may loose compatibility for users.

Yes to have a DVD of documentary to sell. And yes it did noyt play in DVD player, but good quality. Next step will try DVD Create disk, seems only option PD13 has.

Only cloice I have is 16:9 and HQ Best Quality or SmartFit.

Any thougts here on wether HQ or Smart is higher quality?

I think will try both to HD

Ah, tried HQ-BestQuality and it said import file sizes too big to fit disc, so will use Smart Fit now.

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Darp1

Member Location: USA Joined: Nov 18, 2013 10:13 Messages: 122 Offline

Dec 10, 2016 16:34

Quote

Quote Is the purpose to distribute a video? If MPEG 2 will work produce at the highest bitrate that will fit and burn it as a data dvd. If you need a dvd-video format your only real option is to use the highest quality source video and burn at high quality.

You could also burn to a folder and use the dvd 8.5GB option. Then use a third party software to shrink it to fit a 4.5GB disc. If you use AVCHD-DVD you will need a Blu-Ray player, so you may loose compatibility for users.

Yes to have a DVD of documentary to sell. And yes it did noyt play in DVD player, but good quality. Next step will try DVD Create disk, seems only option PD13 has.

Only cloice I have is 16:9 and HQ Best Quality or SmartFit.

Any thougts here on wether HQ or Smart is higher quality?

I think will try both to HD

Ah, tried HQ-BestQuality and it said import file sizes too big to fit disc, so will use Smart Fit now.

OK good news, I did 16-9 DVD Smart Fit, only options on DVD create disc. Much better, I did have alaising issue on graphics, but otherwise quite happy now. Not totally sure why this DVD create worked so much better? Maybe because used 10mbps WMV as source prior time (which outputed fine on MPEG2 720x480 DVD quality, but poor on DVD itself) and this time used original material (massive 77 mins) which was much slower authoring as 15 tracks in some places. Will post separately on alias issue.

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