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got this researching your ? from Blender article and don't know how old this is...

? - What renders faster, NVIDIA or AMD, CUDA or OpenCL?

answer - Currently NVIDIA with CUDA is rendering faster. There is no fundamental reason why this should

be so, because we do not use any CUDA specific features, but the compiler appears to be more mature,

and can better support big kernels.

OpenCL support is still in an early stage and has not been optimized as much.



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May not help much since that is a different app. I thought PD14/15 now uses NVENC only. Now that new GPU cards are available and prices have come down to something more realistic, I'm looking to purchase soon. All benchmarks are for gaming only and I don't think that translates to video rendering. Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
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Quote: May not help much since that is a different app. I thought PD14/15 now uses NVENC only. Now that new GPU cards are available and prices have come down to something more realistic, I'm looking to purchase soon. All benchmarks are for gaming only and I don't think that translates to video rendering.

I've stuck with ATI over the years. It seems all the posts here are about Nvidia. ATI has historically aligned with gaming, but ATI's marketting keeps promoting the rendering value of their product. So I googled to see some benchmarks. Although I did find benchmarks, for example this one, they vary according to what application is in use.

So, to your point, are there any benchmarks for PD, Nvidia -vs- ATI (AMD) and using which profile? I7-4770, 3.40Ghz, 16GB RAM, Asus Z87-Plus Z87chipset, Sapphire ATI Radeon HD7850 PCI Express-16 3.0 2GB, Samsung EVO 840 SSD 1TB

Quote: Does anyone have PD15 and both GPU cards to make a comparison? I don't even use PD for editign much. I load a HDTV MPEG2 file, trim the ends and produce to MP4. So I'm literally just interested in how fast PD15 can transcode using nVidia vs AMD. Over the years, it seems that Cyberlink favored nVidia with better CUDA code and didn't really optimize code for ATI/AMD.

So is there anyone out there that can do a realistic comparison?

These 2 link might help you in your quest to choose a video card. You may want to purchase PD15 first to test your amd card for hevc (h.265) encoding. There is a 30 day money back guarantee. See this link : http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/49020.page#257400 . Third thread down link has a hardware encoding speed test comparing a nvidia with a amd graphics card.

I don’t see how you can go wrong with either card. Most users would probably choose the nvidia for speed. You can always switch to the Intel graphics in situations where you want hardware encoding and maybe have the best of both world.

Very interesting benchmark. Just find it odd that if PD was using OpenCL/GL, why doesn't it recognize the new Radeon RX480 at all? Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
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Quote: Does anyone have PD15 and both GPU cards to make a comparison? I don't even use PD for editign much. I load a HDTV MPEG2 file, trim the ends and produce to MP4. So I'm literally just interested in how fast PD15 can transcode using nVidia vs AMD. Over the years, it seems that Cyberlink favored nVidia with better CUDA code and didn't really optimize code for ATI/AMD.

So is there anyone out there that can do a realistic comparison?

These 2 link might help you in your quest to choose a video card. You may want to purchase PD15 first to test your amd card for hevc (h.265) encoding. There is a 30 day money back guarantee. See this link : http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/49020.page#257400 . Third thread down link has a hardware encoding speed test comparing a nvidia with a amd graphics card.

I don’t see how you can go wrong with either card. Most users would probably choose the nvidia for speed. You can always switch to the Intel graphics in situations where you want hardware encoding and maybe have the best of both world.

The referenced benchmark seems to me pretty skewed to gaming performance, nothing to do with encoding IMO. And then there's JL_JL's posts on how HA can deteriorate your encoded output.

In my mind, if one GPU let me encode 2x or 3x faster than the other, without artifacts, I would consider a video card upgrade.

If I have a short 10 minute clip that I could produce in ½ the time, then that becomes interesting, because I'll most likely be sitting at my PC until completion. My reality is that I produce stuff that's 1-2 hours long, so I'll kick it off, go to bed and see the results in the morning. Now, if a GPU let me do that in 30-60 seconds... but that's way off. I7-4770, 3.40Ghz, 16GB RAM, Asus Z87-Plus Z87chipset, Sapphire ATI Radeon HD7850 PCI Express-16 3.0 2GB, Samsung EVO 840 SSD 1TB

Appears that PD just doesn't support the AMD GPUs as well as the nVidia. Will cost me return shipping, but I'll be returning the RX480 to purchase the GTX1060. Unfortunately, nvidia will cost more, too. Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
Gary Russell -- TN USA

The newest negenration of NVENC (video encoder in nvidia) is more evolved than the VCE (equivalent part in ATI), that's all.

Also your CPU (Haswell generation) GPU has a video encoder (QuickSync) on par with AMD's, but still under what newest nvidia or intel can do.

If you don't edit a lot of 4K, GTX960 will do a good job too. Even for pure transcoding in 4K, the GTX960 is very good.



PS: "Tests" on verious sites mean usually ZERO for PD, because they tests parts that are largelly irrelevent for PD. Use for comparation the testes posted here by actual users.

Latest drivers supported yet?? Power Director 13&14 Ultimate, Photo Director 6, Audio Dir, Pwr2Go 10
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What do you mean?

Hi Sonic - At one stage PDR14 needed an older nVidia GPU driver - didn't support the current version. Has it changed in PDR15?
Thanks Power Director 13&14 Ultimate, Photo Director 6, Audio Dir, Pwr2Go 10
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That was valid only for older Fermi generation cards. Never for newer Kepler, Maxwell or Pascal ones.

Thanks Grumpy!! So latest drivers work OK on newer cards. I've been holding back on a new GPU because of PDR suport problems. Power Director 13&14 Ultimate, Photo Director 6, Audio Dir, Pwr2Go 10
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