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VAMET
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Dear Friends

My first question. I own i5-4690K and GTX 1070 and I have tested BD 3D ISO and MKV with MVC and non of them has played 3D only 2D. I would like to ask, if PowerDVD 16 Ultra Trial version should play BD 3D ISO and MKV in MVC or it's only in Full version?

My second question is related with BD UHD HEVC x265, will it be available in the exist version of PowerDVD 16 or in the future release of PowerDVD 17? I don't want to throw my money in the mud.

My third question. When I play MKV there is no automatic switch to 1080p24, but it remains 1080p60? Are there any settings related to set such switch or again it's a feature only in Full version?

I have SUP files as subtitles (extracted from BD PGS), why they are not working with MKV with the same name as SUP file?

Thank you in advance for your support.

Sincerely

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Hi VAMET,
First question-->http://www.cyberlink.com/downloads/trials/powerdvd-ultra/download_en_GB.html

Second question--> There are no information available yet. If there are some news, they will be announced her in the forum, and over the Homepage.

Third question-->Where can you see if it's 1080p24 or 1080p60? The switch should happen automatically. Please post a screenshot

SUP files work fine on my side.

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VAMET
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Dear Hicham

Quote: Hi VAMET,

First question-->http://www.cyberlink.com/downloads/trials/powerdvd-ultra/download_en_GB.html

Second question--> There are no information available yet. If there are some news, they will be announced her in the forum, and over the Homepage.

Third question-->Where can you see if it's 1080p24 or 1080p60? The switch should happen automatically. Please post a screenshot

SUP files work fine on my side.

Greetings
Hicham


I have got Trial version of PowerDVD 16, so maybe it's limited for 3D playback.

As for refresh rate, I have got such information in my TV, what is the current resolution and refresh rate. The same files played with free applications like MPC-HC + LAV Filters + madVR has not got such problems.

SUP files with the same name as MKV file in the same folder aren't working with PowerDVD 16 Trial version, maybe in Full version?

I have also noticed, that when playing MKV files they stutter every 10 seconds, only Blu-Ray movies from folder and ISO aren't stutter. And this is not a problem with MKV files, because the same MKV, when using MPC-HC + LAV Filters + madVR are working very smooth in 1080p24 without any stutter and problems at all.

At the moment this Trial version of PowerDVD 16 for 70 Euro isn't convince me to buy, sorry. I would expect, that PowerDVD 16 will have advantages over free applications like MPC-HC + LAV Filters + madVR, but at the moment it hasn't.

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Quote: Hi VAMET,
First question-->http://www.cyberlink.com/downloads/trials/powerdvd-ultra/download_en_GB.html

Second question--> There are no information available yet. If there are some news, they will be announced her in the forum, and over the Homepage.

Third question-->Where can you see if it's 1080p24 or 1080p60? The switch should happen automatically. Please post a screenshot

SUP files work fine on my side.

Greetings
Hicham




Sheesh, FILE PLAYBACK rate switching doesnt happen in PDVD. Been asking for this for years.
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VAMET
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Dear DellaDog

Quote:
Quote: Hi VAMET,

First question-->http://www.cyberlink.com/downloads/trials/powerdvd-ultra/download_en_GB.html

Second question--> There are no information available yet. If there are some news, they will be announced her in the forum, and over the Homepage.

Third question-->Where can you see if it's 1080p24 or 1080p60? The switch should happen automatically. Please post a screenshot

SUP files work fine on my side.

Greetings
Hicham


Sheesh, FILE PLAYBACK rate switching doesnt happen in PDVD. Been asking for this for years.


So, you say that Hicham is not telling the truth? Hmm... Nice.

So I think I will stay a little bit longer with my MPC-HC + LAV Filters + madVR.

PS. I have encoded my .mkv x264 to x265, very nice end effect, c.a. 80% smaller file size and I cannot see the difference in quality watching from 2.5 m from my couch. My source was my Blu-Ray movie "AVPR: Aliens vs Predator - Requiem". I have created .mkv 1:1 copy by MakeMKV and then with HandBreak I have encoded it to HEVC x265. So my .mkv 1:1 is 19.4GB (1920x1080 video without quality loss + audio HD), after x265 file is 4.4GB. I will test it with PowerDVD 16 Trial version, how it's played. I have just used Medium Preset with RF 20 via HandBreak. I think that Slow or Very Slow Preset will create even smaller file and RF 20 is enough for picture quality.

Sincerely

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Hi DellaDog,

The file playback rate is specified by industry standards. So It's branded in your source material. The software will check it, and give it back in the write rate. Why do you want to change it manualy?

Hi VAMET,

Please share a screenshot (or a video) of your problem regarding the third question.

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Hicham,

When playing a BluRay disc, PDVD will change the screen refresh rate to the appropriate rate; it does NOT, however, change the video display rate for FILE based videos, like .mkv, avi etc.
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Hi DellaDog,
How do you know this information?
On my side, both "formats" (Bluray and file based videos(mkv,avi..)) are properly played by powerdvd.
So, where do you see this information?
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Does your display (tv, monitor) change its rate from say 60hz to 23.976?
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Hi DellaDog,
You can handle this under Adapter properties. But you don't have to.
The file playback rate is in the source material.
If it is 1080p24 so PDVD will play it back in 1080p24.
If it's a 1080p60, so PDVD will give it back in 1080p60.
You will even not see in witch format it is played back.

I'd like to see a little clip of this if it's possible. Please capture some, and share it her, to more understand the issue.
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Quote: Hi DellaDog,
You can handle this under Adapter properties. But you don't have to.
The file playback rate is in the source material.
If it is 1080p24 so PDVD will play it back in 1080p24.
If it's a 1080p60, so PDVD will give it back in 1080p60.
You will even not see in witch format it is played back.

I'd like to see a little clip of this if it's possible. Please capture some, and share it her, to more understand the issue.
Hicham




Unless something has changed recently, no it does not change the dispaly rate - FOR FILE BASED VIDEOS.
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From another thread:

Subject: PowerDvd 16 - Still no auto refresh change with file based videos [Up]
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Hi DellaDog,

We support this only for BD/DVD so far. We will take it as a suggestion for a new feature.
Thank for your interest.

Best regards
Hicham
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You haven't answered my question.
Send me a capture of this.
Can you describe the steps you did to face this issue?
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Did you even read your previous response in another thread?

"We support this only for BD/DVD so far. We will take it as a suggestion for a new feature.
Thank for your interest. "
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Hi DellDog,
Yes I did. Technical support:
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Hicham,

I don't know how I can be more clear. You are obviously not familiar enough with the software you are trying to support. PDVD DOES NOT automatically adjust the video refresh rate for file based video - you even acknowledged this fact in a recent thread. It is the primary reason most people use a free player (MPC etc) for most videos; just about every other player out there handles this important feature - except PDVD.

The first image shows a video with a rate of 23.9762 playing at 60hz, the player did NOT change the rate to 24 - it never does, the second video played with MPC shows the correct rate.


I would encourage you to become a little more familiar with the software you're trying to support.

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I have a followup question on the PowerDVD and mvc file 3D playback support.



I currently own PowerDVD 13 Ultra and it doesnot play mvc files in 3d.

But the specs here states here PowerDVD 13 Ultra supports mvc ( but apparently in only 2d output )

http://www.cyberlink.com/support/product-faq-content.do?id=15703&prodId=1



Powerdvd 16 ultra specifically states MVC under 3d section

https://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdvd-ultra/compare-versions_en_US.html

3D videos (MK3D/Side-by-side/Up-and-under/2D to 3D, MVC NEW)



Since the trial version doesnt verify this fact, can I safely upgrade to PowerDVD 16 Ultra , knowing that it will support mvc 3d playback ?
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Quote Dear Friends

I own i5-4690K and GTX 1070

My second question is related with BD UHD HEVC x265, will it be available in the exist version of PowerDVD 16 or in the future release of PowerDVD 17? I don't want to throw my money in the mud.


Here's some info on that.

https://www.cyberlink.com/eng/press_room/view_4125.html?AID=10471867&PID=7649589&SID=72705X1521812X5d15b6a74c83c65d35e0b4ebb4f4aeec&utm_source=Skimlinks&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=affiliate&affid=2581_-1_37_CJaffiliate

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11069/pioneer-announces-ultra-hd-bluray-supporting-bdrs11j-drives

Also know that most of the hardware will have to be Playready 3.0 enabled, which means that your GTX 1070 should be OK, but not your processor. This is Microsoft's doing.

You need a Kaby Lake processor for that with on board 630 graphics even if you do use your NVIDIA card; so I've read.

For any one else reading this, I just got an anser back from AMD, and they said "they don't if thier cards are Playready 3.0 enabled or when that will happen".

Very frustrating when even the company making GPU's don't even know the answer.

If you're interested in UHD Blu-ray playback, I would wait until the release of version 17 and generally new versions are released in the spring. However given the circumstances that you will have to upgrade your MoBo and processor, it may be more practicle to get a stand-alone UHD-Blu-ray player.

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Quote I have a followup question on the PowerDVD and mvc file 3D playback support.



I currently own PowerDVD 13 Ultra and it doesnot play mvc files in 3d.

But the specs here states here PowerDVD 13 Ultra supports mvc ( but apparently in only 2d output )

http://www.cyberlink.com/support/product-faq-content.do?id=15703&prodId=1



Powerdvd 16 ultra specifically states MVC under 3d section

https://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdvd-ultra/compare-versions_en_US.html

3D videos (MK3D/Side-by-side/Up-and-under/2D to 3D, MVC NEW)



Since the trial version doesnt verify this fact, can I safely upgrade to PowerDVD 16 Ultra , knowing that it will support mvc 3d playback ?


Hi Sinu,

We have a 30 days satisfaction warranty, so yes, you can try it safely for 30 days.

Greetings

Hicham

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