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Halex15 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: England Joined: Jul 13, 2016 05:23 Messages: 10 Offline
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I've been having real issues with the rendering of videos. When they come out they are fuzzy in parts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZSpZUStPJU from 0:08 onwards), and I've got a new video I want to render but whatever format I try to render it to the exact same thing happens in the exact same place. I've tried redowloading PD but nothing's working, and I can't find anyone else who has the same problems.

Thanks,

Halex
tomasc [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 25, 2011 12:33 Messages: 6464 Offline
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The maximum quality of the video you posted on YouTube is 360p. My SDTV can do 480.
Halex15 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: England Joined: Jul 13, 2016 05:23 Messages: 10 Offline
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So do you think it's not in high enough quality?
tomasc [Avatar]
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Look at this YouTube video at 720p. Be sure that you change the settings to display at 720p and view it at full screen. That is sharp. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzLz_PHpdF8 .
Halex15 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: England Joined: Jul 13, 2016 05:23 Messages: 10 Offline
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so how am I meant to get my quality like that?
Dafydd B [Avatar]
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Quality in, quality out and vice versa - rubbish in rubbish out.

Make sure you're selecting the right templates in Produce that match the quality of the edited video.

Dafydd

Halex15 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: England Joined: Jul 13, 2016 05:23 Messages: 10 Offline
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I don't think that's the problem. What I was getting at in the video was the weird colours that came up, not the quality of the video. Besides, I've tried rendering on every resolution and and format and the same thing happens every time.
Is there any way I could show you this?
Dafydd B [Avatar]
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Take a screenshot and attach it - to show us the actual issue you're referring to.

Just a guess:
Maybe unchecking hardware acceleration, we've seen similar issues in the past where pixelation of a video occurs when rendered to an mp4.

Dafydd
Halex15 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: England Joined: Jul 13, 2016 05:23 Messages: 10 Offline
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I mean these kinds of thing.

They are not an effect I applied it just decolours the video and makes it all pixelated.

P.S. Doing it without fast render didn't work
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ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Hi Halex15 -

That's a demolition job! surprised

The screenshots are from YouTube - right? When you watch the video on your PC, is it showing any artefacts or pixelation?

I assume from your screenshots that the original video is a game capture, even though it's a bit hard to tell! If so:


  1. What software was used to capture it?

  2. What are the properties of the original video? Format? Resolution? Framerate? Bitrate?

  3. What options did you choose in Produce?


All of that makes a difference, as tomasc & Dafydd have pointed out.

I just grabbed a sample game clip, recorded as MP4 1080p 120fps @ 30Mbps - produced to 1080p & 720p in different formats. Here they are on YouTube...

MP4 1080p 30fps @ 16Mbps

M2TS 720p 30fps @ 10Mbps

WMV 720p 30fps @ 6Mbps

There's obviously an expected difference in picture quality, but no demolition (in video quality at least).

Cheers - Tony

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Halex15 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: England Joined: Jul 13, 2016 05:23 Messages: 10 Offline
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1. For the clip I showed you I don't know because I pulled it off youtube, but I downloaded that and my most recent project with http://www.clipconverter.cc/ however I haven't had problems with it before.
2. The Format was MPEG-4 1280x720/240p (40Mbps)
Bitrate: 40000000kbps
Timeline framerate was 60fps
Don't know about resolution.

Thanks,
Halex
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Oh - pulled off YouTube. That might explain the issues you're having.

Just to be clear, if the clip from YouTube is 1280x720 (that's the resolution) it cannot also be 240p. If it was 240p, the resolution would be 428x240. Can you please check what it says when you right click & select Properties.

Edit: (red) Messed up the numbers. Also - 1280x720/240p may have referred to framerate - i.e. 240fps

If the clip is really 480p, then what Dafydd said about "Rubbish in - Rubbish out" applies... and who would know what Clip Converter might have done to it.

Sorry Halex but, in what you're doing there, something is sure to get messed up.

Cheers - Tony

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Halex15 [Avatar]
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Well I don't really understand because I downloaded the video in 720p but it seems the video is 720x480 resolution.

Do you know any way I could download videos from youtube and still not have them screw up?
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Try 4K Downloader - https://www.4kdownload.com/download

Set it to Smart Mode & select Quality: Original - of course, if it's been uploaded at 480p, that is what you'll get.

Seriously, this is not a good way to see how well PDR can render a video - the downloaded clips have already been produced then processed by YouTube... but each to his own.

Cheers - Tony
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Halex15 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: England Joined: Jul 13, 2016 05:23 Messages: 10 Offline
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Thanks
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First: DON'T STEAL OTHER PEOPLES CLIPS! You're breaking every single copyright-law there is! And you're stealing other peoples work and their income. (Shame on other thread-comments for not sayng that!)

Also, YouTube lowers the quality av all uploaded clips to like 10% of the original. To download a clip from YouTube makes you download the low quality version.

Anyways, as for YouTube-gaming. I see you only have stolen clips (Google can actually ban you for that), let me help you to get started with making your own clips in high quality. Delete those and let's make new!




  1. Software: OBS Studio is free to use but I'd rather go with Bandicam or Mirillis Action.

  2. Make sure you record 1080p clips and as high bitrate as possible.

  3. When rendering in Powerdirector for YouTube, make them 2048x1152. YouTube will see them as bigger than 1080p and give them a higher bitrate after they've proccesed it.

  4. HAVE FUN! Do live commentary and just be all over the place. People are there to see YOU, not the game.

Dafydd B [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 26, 2006 08:20 Messages: 11973 Offline
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Hi SweDuck75
Good post.
Dafydd
JoeOfBrien1969 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: New Orleans Joined: Jul 19, 2016 13:17 Messages: 24 Offline
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I am running PowerDirector 14 on a PC w/ Windows 10Pro. Currently have 8GB of RAM but will be upping that to 24 or 32 soon. My hard drive has 1TB of memory, less than 1/2 full now.

My question is this: I had a guy tell me that while the PD14 is running on my C drive, I could run the video files off a separate SSD drive and it would help in the preview rendering. Is this true?

I'm hoping that upgrading the RAM will do the trick without having to do that. As it stands, I can't really work with this when the preview is so choppy. I can't tell if the timing of my edits are happening as intended. It's maddening.

Any advice? The suggestion of using a 2nd hard drive sounds complicated and/or confusing.
tomasc [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 25, 2011 12:33 Messages: 6464 Offline
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Joe - You need to go to the forum index and click on the new topic button on the upper left to start your own new post. The original poster's question of using someone else's video from YouTube has been answered.

Your question has nothing to do with the above. After you start a new post I am sure others will offer help for your question. You need to read this sticky and supply Part A and Part B on that new topic post you create: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/45453.page .
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