It looks like that you have found yet another bug in powerdirector. The screenshots you supplied show that you place images or photos of the same duration on tracks 1 and 2 and then decided to add a transition between them on each track. Finding that the photos on track 2 makes those photos on track 1 invisible you then decided to remove the transition which caused the problem you see.

There are many things you can do to remedy the situation.

1. Place the photos of the same duration only on track 1 or track 2 whichever you prefer or:


2. Instead of deleting those transitions you added use undo instead or:


3. Make sure that the image durations are not the same on the two tracks and don’t line them up or:


4. Report this problem to Cyberlink support and wait for a patch to be made to fix the problem (preferred)

The situation here parallels what is discussed in this link: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/44324.page .

Let us know if this helps and/or you decide to report this issue to Cyberlink support to fix this issue.

Hi, tomasc, many thanks for your suggestions. But:

Suggestion # 1: First of all, of course, the picture on track 1 is not invisible. Pictures on tracks 1 and 2 will appear side-by-side (see joined picture).

Suggestion # 2: "Undo" effectively can be used. But only if I use it just after inserting the transitions. If a lot of work has be done after inserting them, it's not acceptable.

Suggestion # 3: These pictures side-by-side must have the same duration.



So, I will use your preferred sugestion, and will report the problem to Cyberlink. Jean-Paul

i7-4770K 3.50 GHz, Nvidia GTX 960 2 Go, SSD 500 Go, RAM 32 Go
Win 10 64 bits, DirectorSuite 365

Quote: But after playing, I choose to delte these transitions. After deleting the one on track 1, no problem (see picture 2).

No problem, that's not really true, if you look closely at your pics, track 2 changed from your overlap transition to just a end of clip 1 transition and the timeline extended. Your pic 2 has a longer duration timeline vs pic 1.

To get around the problem,
Lock track 2, delete transition in track 1
unlock track 2, lock track 1, delete transition in track 2
unlock track 1

Jeff

Thank you, Jeff, it's a good way to use before the issue is corrected... Jean-Paul

i7-4770K 3.50 GHz, Nvidia GTX 960 2 Go, SSD 500 Go, RAM 32 Go
Win 10 64 bits, DirectorSuite 365

Bhajje, good luck working with support, I hope you can get it resolved. I have no idea if a bug or their intent. Surely not how I would design or think an interface would work but it's been that way since overlap transitions introduced in PD9.

There are a lot of anomalies like you stated with overlap transitions, absolutely nothing to do about equal length of clips or anything. I've experience in on many tracks, not just 1 and 2. I've simply learned to lock all tracks when working with overlap transitions or you get many unwanted effects.

I'll share a few more observations that may give support a clue in your ticket with them. What I've seen is this transition issue all kind of manifest in the same fashion, you delete a transition and another tracks transition changes to no long overlap, but just an end of clip transition. This potentially happens to any track that has a transition in the same time slice as the two clips that you are removing the transition from. Once that "no longer overlap" transition occurs, as in your pic2, any transition operation after that simply go south from there with gaps and such. The attached 2 pics show the issues. (1 shows basic timeline, 2 annotated with the issue)

Jeff

Hi Jeff,

I think you're slightly off the mark there, Overlap transitions have been part of PD as far as my experience goes, as far back as PD5, it would be the "cross" transitions that were introduced in PD9. The differences in them were that, in using overlap, you lose a bit of playing time for each time you apply the transition, for instance, if you apply a 3-second overlap transition(any effect) and you've applied 10 of these, then you've lost half-a-minute of the overall playing time of your clip, If you use the cross behaviour, you retain the overall length of your video but some of the transitions will result in a momentary freeze-frame entering and exiting the transition(a design fault, as I see it).

Cheers!

Neil.

Quote: Hi Jeff,

I think you're slightly off the mark there, Overlap transitions have been part of PD as far as my experience goes, as far back as PD5, it would be the "cross" transitions that were introduced in PD9. The differences in them were that, in using overlap, you lose a bit of playing time for each time you apply the transition, for instance, if you apply a 3-second overlap transition(any effect) and you've applied 10 of these, then you've lost half-a-minute of the overall playing time of your clip, If you use the cross behaviour, you retain the overall length of your video but some of the transitions will result in a momentary freeze-frame entering and exiting the transition(a design fault, as I see it).

Cheers!

Neil.

Yes Neil, I fully realize that, but thanks.

Maybe it was the word choice or my sentence structure and/or description. Maybe the following clarity will help. You could only have transitions on the main video track prior to PD9 and only one transition choice and yes it was effectively the current overlap transition. PD, prior to PD9, had one video track and multiple PIP tracks. PIP tracks could not have transitions, therefor this transition issue could not occur as it takes multiple tracks that accept transitions. So at PD9 they released up to 99 video tracks and each track could have overlap transitions, this was first introduced in PD9 and the issue discussed has been around since. It takes multiple video tracks for this overlap transition issue to occur which was first released in PD9. Yes, at that time they also introduced the cross transition but that has not been my discussion.

Jeff

How an overlap transition is applied to two clips has change/PDR9. Jeff is fully correct in his post. Jeff is a very experienced editor and contributor to this forum. He is someone who's posts should be studied and an editor can learn a great deal for what he writes.
Just my opinion.
Dafydd

Quote:

Yes Neil, I fully realize that, but thanks.

Maybe it was the word choice or my sentence structure and/or description. Maybe the following clarity will help. You could only have transitions on the main video track prior to PD9 and only one transition choice and yes it was effectively the current overlap transition. PD, prior to PD9, had one video track and multiple PIP tracks. PIP tracks could not have transitions, therefor this transition issue could not occur as it takes multiple tracks that accept transitions. So at PD9 they released up to 99 video tracks and each track could have overlap transitions, this was first introduced in PD9 and the issue discussed has been around since. It takes multiple video tracks for this overlap transition issue to occur which was first released in PD9. Yes, at that time they also introduced the cross transition but that has not been my discussion.

Jeff

Hi, Jeff! I owe you an apology in regard to cross vs. overlap transitions. I was going on past experience from using Power Director versions 5, 7 8(still installed) and 14(installed last November). In PD5, 7 and 8, one only had the basic "overlap" transition(my experience, again) which would, when applied, shorten the overall length of the video by a factor of length of transition multiplied by number of times transition is used. Because I jumped past PD9 through to 13, I came upon the "cross" transition in PD14. It proved usefull in one respect that it left the overall length of the video intact(after all the only shortening of a video should be from the "editing", snip-snip of unwanted content!) but the trouble was that some of the transitions, when used in "cross" would produce an unwanted momentary freeze-frame at the beginning and end of the transition, most notable in this were the fade, wipe and threshold effects, though others would behave the same way too. Thus, when using these types of transition, I've had to revert to overlap with the consequential loss of content length with each use.

In relation to deletion of transitions, your suggestion earlier of locking/unlocking of tracks could help.

Cheers!

Neil.

I have received that from CL support. Wait and see.....

"Dear Jean-Paul,

We are able to reproduce the issue in our lab and the engineer is assigned to check the issue.

Thank you for your patience.



Best regards

Your CyberLink Support Team"
Jean-Paul

i7-4770K 3.50 GHz, Nvidia GTX 960 2 Go, SSD 500 Go, RAM 32 Go
Win 10 64 bits, DirectorSuite 365

Hi Bhajje -

After reading Jeff's post about your original post, I set about trying to replicate the transition behaviour suggested. Everything you & Jeff have posted is completely correct, backed up by CL's ability to replicate the issue.

I thought I was going "round the twist" because, at times, what I expected to occur did not. Sometimes, for whatever reason, the other transitions in the same area (time-zone) behaved correctly despite the removal of an overlap transition in Track 1 or 2.

So - I tried to capture that on screen... & very often, with screen recorder running, it didn't do what it had done only moments before. That sparked the intro/outro audio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL4fewfmc2c

Cheers - Tony
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