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angela123
Senior Member Location: new york Joined: Nov 24, 2015 21:53 Messages: 233 Offline
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Hi, When I wish to adjust the volume of a clip, it seems I have to choose Wave Editor.

This is cumersome because first it has to open, then I have to ajdust the volume, then it has to close, and

then I have to do the same steps for the next clip further down the time line.

What is Audio Director? Thanks.
JL_JL [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Location: Arizona, USA Joined: Oct 01, 2006 20:01 Messages: 6091 Offline
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Quote: What is Audio Director?

A more advanced WaveEditor audio feature wise but open and close functionality the same.

Simply adjust volume in PD, either audio room or timeline rubber bands in audio waveform.

Jeff
jcardana
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Quote: What is Audio Director? Thanks.
Well, I don't know. Don't have it. But I'm posting to say you don't need it just to change a clip's/track's volume.

That's done in the Audio Room. Use the vertical slider to adjust a selected clip or the horizontal one "gain" to adjust the entire track.

Hopefully, someone else can tell you what Audio Director is/does compared to Wave Editor, which I don't use either.

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jcardana
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Look what I just found...
http://www.cyberlink.com/support/product-faq-content.do?id=14954&prodId=4

I've also been tinkering around in here...
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/29736.page

Now you have me interested.

I've been running through some of the tuts on the second link I posted. I'm very impressed with the restoration processes. I think I know what my next purchase is going to be.

Angela, thank you for asking. I've never looked at AD before.

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angela123
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many thanks!
angela123
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so, how do you get the slider to STOP moving, in other words, to set to where I move it to? It keeps moving!
jcardana
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When you have a clip selected and you move the vertical slider, watch the clip. You'll see a line going horizontally across the clip. This shows where the volume "know" goes. So if your slide keeps moving it's because the level was set in one place. It's tricky but if you select the clip, press home, it "should" adjust the entire clip, not just the point where the Timeline marker is.
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JL_JL [Avatar]
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Quote: It's tricky but if you select the clip, press home, it "should" adjust the entire clip, not just the point where the Timeline marker is.

Not sure on that, I don't think it's been like that since about PD11 for me. Vertical bar adjustment is always local, beginning of clip if "Home", not the entire clip.

Jeff
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Quote: It's tricky but if you select the clip, press home, it "should" adjust the entire clip, not just the point where the Timeline marker is.
Not sure on that, I don't think it's been like that since about PD11 for me. Vertical bar adjustment is always local, beginning of clip if "Home", not the entire clip.
Yeah, that's always confused me. Sometimes it would, others, nope. Now that I know it's not supposed to, I'll try to pay attention to when it does. Thanks for correcting me. CyberPowerPC | Win7HP-64 | AMD FX-8320 3.5 Ghz | 8GB Mem | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB | WEI 5.9


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JL_JL [Avatar]
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Quote: Yeah, that's always confused me. Sometimes it would, others, nope. Now that I know it's not supposed to, I'll try to pay attention to when it does. Thanks for correcting me.

I do know if you unlink audio and video, select audio by itself, and then use "Home" and adjust via the audio room adjusting the vertical slide will adjust the whole clip for SOME video formats. I've seen it work for m2ts, mts but not wmv so on, so I don't know what the real "design" intent is. More often than not, for me it does not adjust the whole clip. The horizontal slider gain does that. This was all reported in the forum somewhere previously, as I said, not knowing intent, hard to know what's right or wrong, but it does appear very inconsistent which was reported earlier.

Jeff

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Just performed the audio change via the mixing room. Have mpeg-2, mp3, ss, now and m2ts before on the timeline. Highlight the clip and adjust the volume lower to -6.4 db and each will rise at the end of the clip toward 0.0 db. On short mp3 clips of 3 min it rises to 0.0 db at the end on the music track, You therefore need to set both ends. For SmartSound you only need to set the beginning for some reason. For mpeg-2 at the end of a 5 min clip is -5.7 db. It is 0.0 db at the end of a 1 hr 4 min. mpeg-2 clip. So yes you do need to set the volume level at both end of a long mpeg-2 clip but is not really necessary for a short clip.

The horizontal slider appears to adjust the volume of the whole track. Audio Gain set from the beginning of 0 sec. from 50 to 25 is 25 at the end of a 2 hour timeline with multiple clips.

This confirms what I beleive at least with these types of clips that I used in this test.
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Attached is a capture that shows the ability of left and right ends of a clip audio gain to adjust simultaneously when unlinked as I had indicated.

So under certain conditions, one does not need to adjust left and right independently. As I had mentioned, this appears to be a rarity but possible. Real design intent unkown.

Jeff
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Hi, All!

I've found that if you attempt to set the audio level at the very beginning of the clip(first frame), it will sometimes maintain the setting across the duration of the clip, or sometimes it will drift back up, or down to the default 0.0Db level. If the latter happens, then you have to manually raise or lower the level at the end(last frame) of the clip to the volume level you've set at the beginning. This does not happen in PD8. If I set a level in PD8 it will hold that level until the point where I set a new level. That feature is very useful when inserting narration, where you can drop the level in the native audio(captured by the camera's microphone[s]) so that it won't drown out your narration. Likewise with any music you add. Here you can set the music audio level so that the music can be subdued through the video, raising up, just a minute or so toward the end, after your last narration and where you have, perhaps a scrolling closing credit sequence. Hmmm.... As I type this, I'm convincing myself that I sould use PD8 rather than PD14 for future narration/music insertions. As for Wave Editor/Audio Editor, I had Wave Editor appear on my computer as part of my PD14 Ultra package(along with Screen Recorder, which I have not yet tried). Audio Editor can work on and save audio in all different file types(MP3, WMA, WAV, MIDI, etc.) but I think Wave Editor can only save as WAV files(though I may be wrong on that score).

Cheers!

Neil.
ynotfish
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Hi Angela, Joe, tomasc, Jeff & Neil -

Angela - I know your question is resolved, but I'm chiming in because I've been a bit puzzled by the inconsistent audio behaviour others are talking about...

Following others' lead, I just tested 20 completely different clips from a variety of sources, including audio only. For each one, I split the video/audio, put the scrubber at the start of the audio clip & set the gain level (+4.1) as shown in Jeff's screen capture.

Only 4/20 reset the level for the whole clip. The rest only reset to +4.1 at the strat of the clip.

I thought (wrongly) "AHA. It must be related to the audio format."

The 4 clips were: 1. M2TS with AC3 audio (produced in PDR) 2. MKV with DDTHD 7.1 audio (which wouldn't even play back in PDR) 3. MKV with DTSma 7.1 audio (but not 5.1) & 4. MTS with PCM audio (straight off Canon XA20)

In preparing a screenshot to post here, I decided to split some of the longer clips & remove sections so they'd fit neatly... well, well, well! surprised

After splitting clips that had previously NOT reset the level for the whole clip, they DID! Screen capture on YouTube so I didn't have to shrink it too much to post here - https://youtu.be/3vJrjF4x230

Cheers - Tony
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jcardana
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Quote: Screen capture on YouTube so I didn't have to shrink it too much to post here - https://youtu.be/3vJrjF4x230
I see you have the same refresh problem I do.

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Hi, Tony(Ynotfish), Angela(123), Jcardana, Jeff(JL_JL) and Tomasc! Wow, that's a big roll-call!

I guess we could bundle this audio level business with PD14 into the "design fault" basket, ay? As I said, I can perform audio adjustments in PD8, the audio will hold the level I set until I set a new level. What's more, I can type in the level I want in the space above the slider adjustment for a given track, click on that track and the setting will be applied. I can't do that in PD14, or at least, I don't think I can. Some experimentation may be needed in that department. But the fact that I CAN do it in PD8 convinces me even more that I'm glad I held on to PD8, even after installing PD14.

Cheers!

Neil.
angela123
Senior Member Location: new york Joined: Nov 24, 2015 21:53 Messages: 233 Offline
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HI All, I have been "under water" trying to fi huge project but I am looking forward to reading your responses in more depth.Thanks so much!
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