...was just done. Like past day or so. ... sighs.. it happens!

PD14 topic of discussion atm.

CS PD13 Ultimate - Build 3516, WIN 8.1, 64 Bit, 16G RAM, Intel Core i5 4460, CPU @ 3.2GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GT720, Graphics Memory(total avail.)-4093MB
LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray Drive

I answeed a PD13 post last night. It was this morning that it got merged in the previous versions.

PD13 is a 'previous version' now that PD14 has been released. I'm only surprised it hasn't been merged earlier. Regards,
Mike

Home-build system:
Intel Core i5 Quad Core 3.3GHz, 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz,
Asus Nvidia GT440 1GB, 2 x Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB, 1 x Seagate ST1000DM010 1TB,
Windows 7 Prof 64-bit, PD 9 Ultra 64, PD 13 Ultimate 64

Quote: PD13 is a 'previous version' now that PD14 has been released. I'm only surprised it hasn't been merged earlier.

Hi, Mike!

As I said elsewhere, I think they should've waited until PD15 was launched and on sale before relegating PD13 to the Previous Versions forum.

Cheers!

Neil

I'm inclined to agree, but that's Cyberlink for you! Regards,
Mike

Home-build system:
Intel Core i5 Quad Core 3.3GHz, 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz,
Asus Nvidia GT440 1GB, 2 x Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB, 1 x Seagate ST1000DM010 1TB,
Windows 7 Prof 64-bit, PD 9 Ultra 64, PD 13 Ultimate 64

I'm afraid that I'm rather stubborn and when I feel (as I do now) that I'm being pushed or dragged along by the nose then I dig my heels in.

I've got PD13 and it does everything I want/need. Another thing I don't like are the pop ups that appear all the time when I'm working with it.

I only ever look at the forum that is relevant to my version and that's gone now. If ever I decide to upgrade for some reason the forum may again be of relevance to me.

Quote: I'm afraid that I'm rather stubborn and when I feel (as I do now) that I'm being pushed or dragged along by the nose then I dig my heels in.

I've got PD13 and it does everything I want/need. Another thing I don't like are the pop ups that appear all the time when I'm working with it.

I only ever look at the forum that is relevant to my version and that's gone now. If ever I decide to upgrade for some reason the forum may again be of relevance to me.

Hi, Longedge!

The PD13 forum isn't "gone" as such, it's just been buried among the other "previous versions", so you can still comment on, and reply to other posts about PD13, just remember where it's been "tucked away", that's all.

Cheers & Happy New Year!

Neil.

Not quite as I see it Neil. I have and use PD13, not PD 9,10,11 or 12 and neither do I look at the PD14 forum. TBH it's not a matter of great import to me, I no longer do IT stuff (of which AV was an important part) for a living and my own needs are very simple amd easily met. I don't need to be at the 'cutting edge' all the time and I won't be cajoled or manoeuvred into buying an update that is of no use to me.

It's just my reaction to what I see as a sales drive, perhaps I'm odd but hey ho....



p.s. - I lost my wife a few weeks ago and it may well be that this is just a convenient way to vent my spleen??

Longedge, for what it's worth I share your distaste at the sales tactic of CL and the way they treat their customer base. I've also vented on this forum about it in the past but as long as they are selling product they aren't going to bother about us. I've been particularly execised about the way they don't provide patches for products over a year or two old when most companies provide support for five years or more. Regards,
Mike

Home-build system:
Intel Core i5 Quad Core 3.3GHz, 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz,
Asus Nvidia GT440 1GB, 2 x Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB, 1 x Seagate ST1000DM010 1TB,
Windows 7 Prof 64-bit, PD 9 Ultra 64, PD 13 Ultimate 64

I still use PD 13, but like it or not it is a previous version. It's not about sales. It's about keeping the forums uncluttered. __________________________________
CORNBLOSSOM

Quote: It's about keeping the forums uncluttered.

I felt that it was exactly that - PD13 and no other.

Hi, All!

It appears Cyberlink must not be monitoring these forums at all! If they did, they'd see that there's quite a huge number of disgruntled Power Director users "out there" who are anywhere between "mildly irate" to "possitively livid" and then "blood-boiling mad" about Cyberlink's marketing policy and attitude toward its customer base(direct or indirect.... direct = buy via Cyberlink site; indirect = buy via retail store). Cyberlink certainly needs to smarten itself up if it wants to stay in business.

Cheers!

Neil.

Quote: It's about keeping the forums uncluttered.

One could argue that keeping a sub-forum for each of the last, say, four versions would be no more messy than clumping them all together. Regards,
Mike

Home-build system:
Intel Core i5 Quad Core 3.3GHz, 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz,
Asus Nvidia GT440 1GB, 2 x Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB, 1 x Seagate ST1000DM010 1TB,
Windows 7 Prof 64-bit, PD 9 Ultra 64, PD 13 Ultimate 64

Quote:

Quote: It's about keeping the forums uncluttered.

One could argue that keeping a sub-forum for each of the last, say, four versions would be no more messy than clumping them all together.

Yep!

Makes perfect sense to me, Mike!

Cheers!

Neil.

With so many users still on PDR13, it is still a "current version" and not a "previous version" to be dumped into the old versions thread which are no longer supported.

Seems their strategy is to get us to buy a new version every year, hoping that the requested fixes in the current version will somehow be miraculously cured.
It's a sad testament that when users are still deciding whether to upgrade to PDR14, the forum already has a long wishlist for PDR15 - which looks a lot like the old PDR14 wishlist from the PDR13 forum thread.

Do we really think the next version will solve the problems and shortcomings of the current version?
If they don't fix PDR14 then they have a guaranteed market for PDR15.

Power Director users seem to be eternal optimists.

Despite Cyberlink's disappoionting track record, I must say that I know of no other NLE user forum where the members dedicate so much of thier time to supporting and helping others. They are the main reason I stick with Power Director.

A sincere thanks to you all - and best wishes for the New Year.

Al Power Director 13&14 Ultimate, Photo Director 6, Audio Dir, Pwr2Go 10
Win 10 64, Intel MB DH87MC, Intel i5-4670 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 16Gb DDR3 1600, 128Gb SSD, 2x1Tb WDBlue 7200rpmSATA6, Intel 4600 GPU, Gigabyte G1 GTX960 4GB, LG BluRay Writer

It's nice to have a forum that at least allows complaints/suggestions to be part of the conversation. Sounds like everyone has valid points but a 'ship' doesn't change course on the passengers request's - usually! Well, it'd take many, many passengers to make the request, then there's the thing of mutiny...etc...

I wonder if the strategy of releasing every year is in their (Cyberlink's) 'business model'? Would seem to make some sense at least! Fix what they can with patches and keep releasing annually.

My strategy for all the marketing gimmicks is to not get myself into the frame of mind, to have to HAVE the latest and greatest of anything. I'll wait to see what gets fixed in PD14 and if PD15 addresses anything that I have a concern with in PD13. Then, I wont 'jump' into buying anything until I think the new improved version has some feature that I want to PAY for.

Would be nice to see that either a patch or the new release would address the need for the 'Magic' thing you worked on Al - with optodata and several others. Is this one of the requests in the 'suggestions' thread for new PD versions?

Anyway, Happy New Year folks!
CS PD13 Ultimate - Build 3516, WIN 8.1, 64 Bit, 16G RAM, Intel Core i5 4460, CPU @ 3.2GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GT720, Graphics Memory(total avail.)-4093MB
LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray Drive

Quote: I wont 'jump' into buying anything until I think the new improved version has some feature that I want to PAY for

My feeling exactly CS. I 'jumped' straight from PD9 to PD13 precisely for that reason and unless I need a feature that's not in PD13 I won't be buying again any time soon.

Mind you, if CL were to totally rewrite the Disc Creation module then I might just be tempted . . . . . .

Happy New Year to all. Regards,
Mike

Home-build system:
Intel Core i5 Quad Core 3.3GHz, 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz,
Asus Nvidia GT440 1GB, 2 x Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB, 1 x Seagate ST1000DM010 1TB,
Windows 7 Prof 64-bit, PD 9 Ultra 64, PD 13 Ultimate 64

Quote:
Would be nice to see that either a patch or the new release would address the need for the 'Magic' thing you worked on Al - with optodata and several others. Is this one of the requests in the 'suggestions' thread for new PD versions?

Anyway, Happy New Year folks!
CS

Thanks CS,

Ron's "Magic Thing" would make a huge difference to PDR14. I had the idea but couldn't work out how to use it easily with PD. Ron spent an untold amout of time putting it into a user friendly form for all. I may have had the "inspiration" but Ron and Robert had the "perspiration" from creating and testing many possible solutions. Now that our users have done the work, it would be nice if Cyberlink would just incorporate it into PD. Users are trying to overcome PD's realtime preview problems with more expensive hardware "horsepower" but few realise that Robert is editing 4k with realtime preview and he doesn't even have a graphics card in his PC! It is Magic!

If Cyberlink fails to incorporate it - I think I may have found the hardware solution for our users.

Intel's 72-core processor jumps from supercomputers to workstations

"The Knights Landing chip can deliver over 3 teraflops of peak performance, which is roughly in the range of
some high-performance graphics chips used in the world's fastest supercomputers."

Maybe next Christmas.

Al

(I still can't work out how to change the font color for a link - hence all thedits of this post) Power Director 13&14 Ultimate, Photo Director 6, Audio Dir, Pwr2Go 10
Win 10 64, Intel MB DH87MC, Intel i5-4670 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 16Gb DDR3 1600, 128Gb SSD, 2x1Tb WDBlue 7200rpmSATA6, Intel 4600 GPU, Gigabyte G1 GTX960 4GB, LG BluRay Writer

Hi, All!

Reading through this thread of late, it's quite clear that users don't like to be "pushed" into buying the latest version of Power Director, or any Cyberlink product, or product from any other software maker, for that matter unless there's a genuinely valid reason to do so. Having the "latest & greatest model" is certainly NOT a valid reason! Upon buying and installing PD14 I found quite a few useful additions, like the ability to create one's own transition effects, for example. But where Power Director falls down badly is in the department of disc creation(authoring or "burning"). The clear lack of choice in this department is grossly disappointing and is a black mark against an otherwise excellent software programme. It's just as well I was able to hang on to PD8 Ultra for disc creation purposes as there I still had the choice of "burning" at DVD-SP grade to make the most of the capacity of the discs I use. Such facility as this is NOT available in PD14Ultra. The thread titled "Suggestions For Power Director 15" may well prove futile because I do not think Cyberlink will pay heed to any of the suggestions thus-far given by users like us. Cyberlink is, after all, a corporation, whose only loyalty(?) is to its shareholders, Cyberlink's only interest is in making money. End-userslike us are not important to them. Our views don't matter! It's what rakes in the moolah that matters to Cyberlink! If that comes across as cynicism, so be it. But we have to face facts here. Cyberlink may be just on the verge of releasing PD15 and we may well see it advertised on this website's home page within the next four-to-six months, and in the list of features for the new version, do you honestly expect even one of our suggestions become reality?..... Then you better shake yourself out of your dream state right now. It's 100% sure that NONE of our user-suggested modifications will be realised in PD15, 16, 17 or beyond.

Sorry to be pesimistic on New Year's Eve(11.07am 31/12/2015 as I write this), but that's the way it is with corporations!

Cheers & Happy New Year!

Neil.