Some more testing....

Change audio from uncompressed hd to lpcm: 3d flawless (but I don't want that).

Change video output to 720p60Hz with uncompressed hd: 3d flawless (but I don't want that).

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Hi Hicham,

Logged a trouble ticket. As a test I installed reclock to reframe to 23.976 and changed pdvd audio out to pcm. This works flawless but I do want to bitstream and let my Anthem avm50v 3D decode the audio.

Thank you for your follow-up.

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Stef

PhenixS1970 Thanks you for this thread.

You are welcome MarkTom.

Follow-up from tech support doesn't resolve my (and assume many others...) issue. If the 3d display natively supports 24p then PVDV will output 24p despite the 3D blu ray spec is 23.976. Is does so to be more compatible with your display.
They propose to reach out to 'reclock' and figure out how to use it enabling bitstreaming...
Don't get it that PDVD can't include a 1080p 23.976 output mode. After all TMT6 and any decent 3d hardware media player does that.

No more news from tech support so I guess that's it...

Quote: No more news from tech support so I guess that's it...

I would have bet considerable money that was going to be the case.

Afraid so...and very unfortunate as the picture quality is stunning..

Hi, is the ticket still open? You can to tell going into your members zone and selecting "my support tickets". My bug with subtitles being bugged and wrecking the video display in non bluray subtitles that I opened almost a month ago is still open. If its not closed, its still in the works I believe.

Hi nullack. Indeed ticket is still open and earlier today I have received an update from tech support, in a nutshell 'Thank you for comments and recommendations...forwarded to development for future product improvement'.

To provide a latest update on this, the ticket has been closed by Cyberlink. The nuc is connected to an Anthem avm50v3D which has a vxp scaler. Regarding 2D blu ray movie iso PowerDvd 15 indicates output of 23.976 and obviously have no problems at all. I consider the 3d playback probs the result of a lousy implementation.

As a test I tried something different . With tsmuxer
I rebuilt the 3D iso of Mad Max fury road and changed the fps from 23.976 to 24 fps. I would assume no more skipped frames during playback, right? Wrong, occur at exactly the same timeframes. Btw iso is fine as plays flawless on a med 800x3D. This movie has dolby atmos encoding so makes me wonder if this causes some playback issues....

Btw looking into de general settings of PDVD during playback a 'normal' 3D 23.976 is played back at 23.0 frames. The rebuilt mad max indicates 24.0 frames.

I'm still using PowerDVD14, but what I do is set my refresh rate to 23 (which is 23.976 _ there is no 23 fps) in the NVIDIA control panel.
I get a message from DVD14 asking me if I want to correct the refresh rate and I choose not to.
It then remains at 23.976 and my 3D ISO's play perfectly.
There have also been a few reports over at SlySoft that Power DVD's 15 virtual drive isn't that great, so I have been using Virtual Clone Drive _ it works well and has never given me any problems, so I stick with it.

My 3D ISO's are also complete copies of the entire disc.

In my nuc the refresh rate is also set to 23 and I tend to use virtual clone drive as well (also.using,complete copies of the disc).

PDVD never gives any kind of notification if I want to keep the refresh rate.

What I'm puzzeled about is that when playing a 2D blu ray iso in the general setting/info it displays movie playback at 23.976. Not the case when playing a 3D iso.

If however I chose pcm audio there are no playback issues. Unfortunately not an option as I intend to move to Atmos shortly, enforcing bitstream audio (also letting my Anthem doing the audio decoding has a significant impact on the sound quality).

Here's a screen shot on how to reset Cyberlink on the refresh rate pop-up. Again this applies to DVD14, but I am going to assume that it's the same for DVD15.



I had a look at the bare minimum specs to play a 3D movie and when it come to using a CPU only, it's asking for at least an Intel i5 _ yours is an i3.

Maybe that's the problem.

When you change to LPCM, it works because you're unloading some of the burden on the CPU.

TMT tended to be a lighte application and would work with you i3 _ just suggesting a possable explanation.

Thank you very much for looking into this, Jeff. Might be onto something regarding the nuc not being up to the task. I did sent Cyberlink a dx file when they were looking into troubleshooting with me but maybe they didn't pick up that I have an i3. Might give it a try with my i7 asus laptop (which has an integrated nvidia card as well).

Thanks for pointing me towards the reset dialog setting Nuc is on 23p and no msg popped up when playing a 3d iso (mounted with virtual close drive).

Hmmm...
The DX file has that information right in front of their face, including the fact that you have an i3 processor.
I think the problem with Cyberlinks' help is that it first goes to the bottom help centre and while I am sure the people there try to help, they are reading from a script and they don't know what the real problem _ even if it's staring them in the face.

If I get curios enough, I'll slip my GT 980 out and force my HTPC just to run on the processor.
It's a 4770K so it will have a enough juice to run 3D, but if there is a problem with the Intel drivers, it will show up.

Don't go into too much trouble fo me, Jeff (and your input is very much appreciated).

Argl checked my msi gt 70 which is an ivy bridge i7 with hd4000 and gtx 680m. Don't think that's going to work either as I believe intel never fixed ivy bridge proper 23.976 (which was a known bug).