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HA Test with new GTX960
MarkyM [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Nov 29, 2009 12:32 Messages: 17 Offline
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Well, I just installed my new EVGA GTX960 graphics card and here are my observations:

1) I can use Full HD for preview now and it plays and responds nice and smooth so far. I tested with a 1080 60P video I shot at the Cleveland Air show a few weeks ago. Previous card was an AMD Radeon HD6850.

2) The "Hardware Video Encoder" option is now available in the Produce tab. Yay! But...It doesn't help all that much. the "Video Engine Load" as shown in GPU-Z was only about 36% max when producing to a 1080 60P 28mbps AVCHD file. The project had no effects, just a few transitions.

Is there any way to make it use more of the power of the GTX960?
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Yep, in my experience that's the program in-efficiency.
A faster CPU helps preparing and feeding more data to the GPU, but at some point it hits a bottleneck.
PepsiMan
Senior Contributor Location: Clarksville, TN Joined: Dec 29, 2010 01:20 Messages: 1054 Offline
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howzit?

yup, yup...

unlike Julien, i couldn't wait till Black Friday or Saturday or Sunday,

so i went shopping and purchased MSI GTX 960 Gaming 2G for $175.00 including shipping.

attached is the pictures of the GTX 960 in action or inaction like MarkyM said...

experts out there knows what is going on... i do remember Sonic saying something about not fully

utilizing the 2GB VRAM...



whatever you do, don't let it bother you too much if it doesn't happen to your expectations.

happy editing.

PepsiMan



p.s.

GPU-Z says that i don't have enough power to the GPU. my PS is 500W and min is 400W for the GTX 960.
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'no bridge too far'

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Julien Pierre [Avatar]
Contributor Joined: Apr 14, 2011 01:34 Messages: 476 Offline
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Quote: howzit?

yup, yup...

unlike Julien, i couldn't wait till Black Friday or Saturday or Sunday,

so i went shopping and purchased MSI GTX 960 Gaming 2G for $175.00 including shipping.





Nice, and good price

I am going to confess that I couldn't wait either, and over the weekend I bought a GTX 960 card at Fry's, along with a 28" 4K monitor for $190 . I bought the card mainly to drive the monitor - HA was just a side bonus.

I was not happy with the monitor, and returned it on monday. You can see the review on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3EYPDSL8ULS2S/ref=cm_cr_pr_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00SX4WQ2A

The card I got was the following model :

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Gaming-Graphics-GV-N960G1-GAMING-4GD/dp/B00VBNT3X0/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1443594093&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+960+g1+4gb

The card seemed to work fine even with the latest nVidia drivers, under both Win7 and Win10.

No "production unsuccessful" or "out of GPU memory" problems with HA. It may be that the 4GB on it makes a difference with the memory leaks in PowerDirector 14/PowerDVD 14.

Anyway, the card in my case was actually pricier than the monitor. Since I returned the monitor, I returned the card also - I'm back to my GTX 750 Ti for now, and my old trustty HP LP3065 30" monitor.

The only other 4K monitor that I thought was worth buying is a Benq BL3201PH . But it's over $900 + tax still. And I would probably want a pair of them.

http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-BL3201PH-Monitor-32-Inch-LED-Lit/dp/B00O1B5M9I/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1443594226&sr=1-1&keywords=benq+4k
Still no HDMI 2.0 on it though, only a pair of DisplayPort (one DP/ one miniDP) for 4K.

Just too much to spend on something that still lacks proper connectivity. The HP LP3065 really can't be beat there, with its 3 dual-link DVI inputs - no need for the V part of KVM, just KM.

I also returned my Sony FDR-AX33 camcorder as well yesterday since I could not get the indoor picture quality to improve.

I may stick with my trusty old Canon HG21 HD camcorder for a little bit longer.

Seems really the whole 4K technology is still too much in transition, in terms of displays and cameras at least, both of which are stuck at 30 Hz in many situations. The nVidia GTX 950/960 video cards really seem to be the only devices that are really "there" now.

Except of course they lack DP 1.3 for both 4K and 3D at the same time MSI X99A Raider
Intel i7-5820k @ 4.4 GHz
32GB DDR4 RAM
Gigabyte nVidia GTX 960 4GB
480 GB Patriot Ignite SSD (boot)
2 x 480 GB Sandisk Ultra II SSD (striped)
6 x 1 TB Samsung 860 SSD (striped)

2 x LG 32UD59-B 32" 4K
Asus PB238 23" HD (portrait)
PaulAus1234 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Sep 30, 2015 01:44 Messages: 2 Offline
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Quote:

I was not happy with the monitor, and returned it on monday.

Seems really the whole 4K technology is still too much in transition, in terms of displays and cameras at least, both of which are stuck at 30 Hz in many situations. The nVidia GTX 950/960 video cards really seem to be the only devices that are really "there" now.

Except of course they lack DP 1.3 for both 4K and 3D at the same time




you are correct yes right now 4K is not worth the money to upgrade to untill we are pushing 60-144hz @ 4k res, im currently using an ASUS 24" 144hz (currently no Gsync adapter attached, tho it can be upgraded to use Gsync) on an MSI GTX980Ti 6g Gaming edition with 16gig of ram on the mobo, and it runs sweet as pretty much future proof'd my rig for a good 3 or more years by spending the money on that video card, once a decent monitor comes out thats pushing up toward 144hz @ 4K res and is a reasonable price i will upgrade the monitor, but right now, 4K is just a money pit to only be running at 30hz



Gaming on that 980Ti is awesome tho clocking nearly 1500mhz is great
PepsiMan
Senior Contributor Location: Clarksville, TN Joined: Dec 29, 2010 01:20 Messages: 1054 Offline
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Quote:
Quote: howzit?

yup, yup...

unlike Julien, i couldn't wait till Black Friday or Saturday or Sunday,

so i went shopping and purchased MSI GTX 960 Gaming 2G for $175.00 including shipping.



Nice, and good price

I am going to confess that I couldn't wait either, and over the weekend I bought a GTX 960 card at Fry's, along with a 28" 4K monitor for $190 ...

The card seemed to work fine even with the latest nVidia drivers, under both Win7 and Win10...

I may stick with my trusty old Canon HG21 HD camcorder for a little bit longer...





good for you. laughing

and here's some screen shots of GTX 750Ti and GTX 960 doing the samething(rendering HEVC H.265 to AVC H.264).

about same too...

what do ya think??? hmm? interesting...



PepsiMan



p.s.

i am back to GTX 750Ti after that...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at Sep 30. 2015 21:58

'no bridge too far'

Yashica Electro 8 LD-6 Super 8mm
Asrock TaiChi X470, AMD R7 2700X, W7P 64, MSI GTX1060 6GB, Corsair 16GB/RAM
Dell XPS L702X i7-2860QM, W7P / W10P 64, Intel HD3000/nVidia GT 550M 1GB, Micron 16GB/RAM
Samsung Galaxy Note3/NX1
Julien Pierre [Avatar]
Contributor Joined: Apr 14, 2011 01:34 Messages: 476 Offline
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Quote:

and here's some screen shots of GTX 750Ti and GTX 960 doing the samething(rendering HEVC H.265 to AVC H.264).

about same too...

what do ya think??? hmm? interesting...



PepsiMan



p.s.

i am back to GTX 750Ti after that...


I notice that your rendering is only about 0.3x for both.

Ie. 3 minute rendering on a 1 minute clip.

That is likely because you are using some effects in your project, which are run on the CPU, not offloaded to the GPU.

Only the compression is offloaded to the GPU.

So, IMO, your test is not a good one for HA.

If you try to simply put a clip on the timeline without any effects or changes, and then render with the hardware encoding, that will be a better test for HA.

I doubt that the GTX 960 is going to encode H.264 any faster than the GTX 750 Ti.

The main thing you gain is that there is extra silicon in the GTX 960 to encode H.265 in hardware also.

And there is also silicon in the GTX 960 to decode H.265 in hardware, but it's not clear that PowerDirector 14 is properly taking advantage of it according to other threads. I only had my GTX 960 for two days and did not really check all the details. I believe MPC-HC was using the H.265 decoding in hardware for playback, but PowerDirector 14 was not. No way to check now since I returned the card.

I think another GTX 960 is still probably in my future, but likely when I find a better 4K camera and 4K display to go along with it. MSI X99A Raider
Intel i7-5820k @ 4.4 GHz
32GB DDR4 RAM
Gigabyte nVidia GTX 960 4GB
480 GB Patriot Ignite SSD (boot)
2 x 480 GB Sandisk Ultra II SSD (striped)
6 x 1 TB Samsung 860 SSD (striped)

2 x LG 32UD59-B 32" 4K
Asus PB238 23" HD (portrait)
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