GTX-960 ?

Eugen157

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Mar 03, 2015 14:44

SoNic67 brought my attention to the GTX960 board. I ordered it because among its attributes is the HDMI v2.0 output. With the current board GT 640 my computer is limited to 30FPS when outputting 4K.

Many reports indicate that the 960 should do well with an output at 60FPS. I ordered the

Gigabyte GTX 960 Mini ITX Overclocked 2GB GDDR5 Graphics Cards GV-N960IXOC-2GD

(mini version) from Amazon. This specific item had good reviews as well.

Would like to hear from PD13 users about their experiences with this board in either HD or 4K use.

SoNice67, what number Nvidea drivers etc are you using with the 960?

Eugene

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SoNic67

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Mar 03, 2015 15:13

Eugene, since it is brand-new, you need to use latest drivers - I had 347.25 initially ( January 22 ) and now I have 347.52 (February 10).
No other drivers will recognize the card.

It works well for me, in PD (HA up to 4K) or in games (FarCry4), it runs very cool. I wouldn't go for ITX version because of the gaming, I like my cards full size (I have an EVGA one).
I don't have a 4K TV thou, so I cannot tell how well it handles the 4k natively.

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Eugen157

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Mar 06, 2015 12:01

SoNice 67

Your 960 has HDMI and display port output. (I expect mine next week)

Can you use both independently, 4K for HDMI and DP for HD and have audio on both?.

With my boards that I use now, I can only have audio on one port.

Thanks

Eugene

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SoNic67

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Mar 06, 2015 14:23

I don't know, I have just one TV HDMI in the room and one DVI - no DP with audio here.

Sorry, my main sound card is a professional E-MU 1820M, that's why I am not so worried about the sound from my video card...

Eugen157

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Mar 07, 2015 11:32

Regardless of the audio card, the audio becomes part of the HDMI or DP stream. Can the 960 add the audio to both or just one

Thanks

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SoNic67

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Mar 07, 2015 13:30

No, if you use a dedicated sound card, it is used distinctly from the sound chips included on video card.
It seems that the GTX960 it can handle 4 separate audio streams.
My Media Center card (a GT610) has two channels, but I always used just one.
Have no real desire to test them all... because it would mean to move a HDTV from another room in the livingroom.

PS: You cannot really "play" two different sounds in Windows easily. I can only do it with two instances of Foobar2000 running in the same time, one using Windows default device and another using ASIO drivers.


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Eugen157

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Mar 07, 2015 13:55

Very informative, Thanks !!

I want the same audio stream on both outputs, looks doable.

Eugene

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Eugen157

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Mar 09, 2015 16:56

First, thanks for all the help!

Well, I did get and installed the GTX 960 about an hour ago

So far I have been able to use HA only with the Media Player Classic 64, V177. Here is an interesting article;

http://us.hardware.info/reviews/5890/2/test-the-geforce-gtx-960-is-the-best-htpc-gpu-of-this-moment-h265-on-the-gtx-960-innpractice

But only NVIDEA CUPID or DXVA2 (copy back) will provide HA.

I like the GOM player better but at 60P it stutters with HA


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SoNic67

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Mar 09, 2015 18:59

Those are my settings in Media Player Classic Home Cinema:

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Eldor

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Mar 11, 2015 12:37

Please forgive my simple question...

I want to order a GTX 960 video card (thanks to the recommendations here) and so far my search seems to have turned up several variants of it.

If you talk about an "NVIDIA GTX 960", does that refer simply to the *chip set* being used? Much like dozens of computer makers might use Intel chipsets? In other words, are all Nvidia GTX 960 video cards the same, or are some more worth looking at/for than others?

Thank you.

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SoNic67

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Mar 11, 2015 19:35

The cipset manufacturer is nVidia and number is "GTX960".
Basically the cards differ by number of fans (and possible the fans quality), and if they are factory overclocked or not...
For example mine is made by EVGA - got it because it had 2 fans, I like their fans (ball bearings as opposed to sleeve bearings) and... it had a $10 rebate.

But all the cards are close in gaming performances, and purely for our video editing purposes they are essentially identical.

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Myk

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Mar 11, 2015 20:48

I ordered the EVGA GTX960. This one on Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487091
It has the highest out-of-the-box overclock, and dual ball bearing fans. It will be delivered tomorrow.

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Aldoxide

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Mar 12, 2015 04:39

I had this card before as well... I noticed that it didn't render some of the transitions properly when you had a background track. eg. the fade outs would fade to black instead of the track bellow. I downgraded to a raedon card and this issue seems to have vanished. If video editing is one of your primary use for your computer... I would suggest looking into raedon cards as they seem to render transitions and effects better than nvidia cards... I wish cyberlink would elaborate further on what cards work best with the software (rigorously tested and provide top performance) ... rather than throw vague recommendations. 4790K / Asus Z97i-Plus / 16gb (2-8gb)crucial @1866 Mhz / Samsung ssd 840 pro 250gb / Samsung 850 evo 250gb M.2 / 2-4tb HGST 7200rpm raid 1 / Nvidia GTX 1070 founders) / corsair RM650 PS / LG BD-RE

Eldor

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Mar 12, 2015 09:33

Are you saying the GTX-960 card didn't work for you, or when you say "I had this card before...." were you talking about a different card?

Quote: I had this card before as well... I noticed that it didn't render some of the transitions properly when you had a background track. eg. the fade outs would fade to black instead of the track bellow. I downgraded to a raedon card and this issue seems to have vanished. If video editing is one of your primary use for your computer... I would suggest looking into raedon cards as they seem to render transitions and effects better than nvidia cards... I wish cyberlink would elaborate further on what cards work best with the software (rigorously tested and provide top performance) ... rather than throw vague recommendations.

Aldoxide

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Mar 12, 2015 12:23

Eldor:

The gtx 960 also had rendering issues with fade in fade outs showing black for a background instead of the track below. This happened in the final produced video... not during preview. I hate to sway you away from this card but at least you should be aware of the issues I noticed. At least test it well before the return period expires. It happens mostly with tittles and particle effects and the cross fade transition. Best of lucks. 4790K / Asus Z97i-Plus / 16gb (2-8gb)crucial @1866 Mhz / Samsung ssd 840 pro 250gb / Samsung 850 evo 250gb M.2 / 2-4tb HGST 7200rpm raid 1 / Nvidia GTX 1070 founders) / corsair RM650 PS / LG BD-RE

Eldor

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Mar 12, 2015 12:34

Thank you for the warning, Aldoxide.

I will test it out carefully.

I'm getting the EVGA GeForce GTX 960 Super-superclocked card, part number: 02G-P4-2966-KR tomorrow.

SoNic67

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Mar 12, 2015 18:23

Quote: The gtx 960 also had rendering issues with fade in fade outs showing black for a background instead of the track below.

What was the exact name of the transition? I didn't notice any issues with the latest drivers.
See attached a cross-fade between two of the "boats" video files.

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Myk

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Mar 12, 2015 18:39

I just burned a DVD using fade-in-out and chapter text overlays. That worked fine.
Pretty much all I need, for now.
Took 1hr 15m as opposed to 4hr.

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Aldoxide

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Mar 13, 2015 02:00

Transition is called : "fade" and is a 2d type
you can try to replicate the issue with the "wedding pack tittles" either "laurel" or "lace of hearts"...
Have the movie clip on the bottom and insert any of these tittles using the fade transition...
Once you produce the video you should notice it fades to black or with black lines across... once the transition is over then
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GGRussell

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Mar 13, 2015 09:12

Aldoxide - That is how fade works. It is a Fade in or fade out when on separate tracks. If the Title and video are on separate tracks, you need to add the Fade to end of Title AND add it to beginning of video.

If the Title and video are on the SAME Track, you add the Fade transition between the the Title and video. You will get a nice CROSS fade. Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
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