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Scene detection issues with PD 13 and DV-AVI timecode files
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This use to work ok in PD 12.
I did a quick spot check and was not able to reproduce the same issues that plague the DV-AVI files when using mpg4 video files or when using (DV-AVI files when selecting "Detect by change of video frames" instead of the more preferred "Detect by change of timecode").

Steps to reproduce:
- Open new project.
- Choose Import Media File.
- In the following dialog click on the video you want to import (needs to be a dv-avi file with timecode) (screenshot 1)
- Don’t click on detect scene – just the Open button.
- In PD right click the video clip and choose “Detect Scenes…”
- Dialog shows up but it doesn’t detect scenes (noting happens and the screen looks like screenshot 2).
- Click the Detect button in the dialog – nothing happens (still looks like screenshot 2).
-You also have no way of getting to the scene detection setting screen (disabled) (to show you that DV-AVI timecode search is enabled).

To get it to “kind off” work, you will need to:
- Delete the clip.
- Choose Import Media File again.
- In the following dialog click on the clip you want to import.
- Click on detect scene in the dialog box and wait for it to find all the scenes (Note – no way to change scene detection settings from this page).
- After it has detected all the scenes choose Open (screenshot 3)
- Once back in PD the clip has a folder icon on it with scenes now (That is a good thing).
- Next right click the video clip and choose “Detect Scenes…”
- It will run through quick the clip and show you all the scenes (screenshot 4).
- You are also able to get to the setting page (screenshot 5)
- While still in this screen, delete some or all of the clips it had detected (screenshot 6).
- Click the Detect button and it again is broken (looks the same as screenshot 2 – never finds anything).
- Close the dialog box again.
- Now click the folder icon on your clip.
- The scenes are still available.
Delete them from that view - and you are back in your media library view (and the video clip has no folder icon - as it should).
- In PD right click the Video clip and choose “Detect Scenes…” again.
- and again the display will not be what you expect.
- Now delete the video clip from your project.
- Choose Import Media File again.
- Click on your video clip (and magically it shows scenes – like in screenshot 3 - even though you have not told it to detect them in the clip). PD is caching this info somehow. I tried the "Manually purge temp files" option in PD - that did not solve anything.

Bottom line - for me scene detection and DV-AVI files with timecode is a broken in PD 13.

Anyone have any ideas – or is this another support ticket?



Version info:
PowerDirector 13 Ultimate 13.0.2408.0

Project settings:
4 x 3
PAL 25 fps

Video Properties according to Media Info:
General
Complete name: C:\Users\name\Desktop\14.avi
Format: AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Commercial name : DVCPRO
Format profile : OpenDML
File size : 12.4 GiB
Duration : 1h 1mn
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 28.9 Mbps
Recorded date : 2003-06-16 10:05:19.000

Video
ID : 0
Format : DV
Commercial name : DVCPRO
Duration : 1h 1mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 24.4 Mbps
Encoded bit rate : 28.8 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357
Time code of first frame : 00:59:45:04
Time code source : Subcode time code
Stream size : 12.4 GiB (100%)
Encoding settings : ae mode=full automatic / wb mode=automatic / white balance= / fcm=manual focus

Audio
ID : 0-0
Format : PCM
Muxing mode : DV
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Duration : 1h 1mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Encoded bit rate : 0 bps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 678 MiB (5%)
Encoded stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)


PC:
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium Edition Service Pack 1 build 7601 (64-bit)
CPU: Intel Core2 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Memory: 4030MB
Drive 1: KINGSTON 240GB SSD
Drive 2: Western Digital 640 7200rpm
Video Adapters: Radeon X1300/X1550 Series 256MB
Monitor 1: Dell 1600x1200x32 60Hz


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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at Feb 13. 2015 21:07

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CyberLink acknowledged that they are able to reproduce the issue and engineers are assigned to look into it.

This is the second issue I have with DV-AVI format (the other was with SVRT - also posted in the forum) that is not affecting other formats like MP4 or MPEG-2.
Win8.1 Pro x64 / Dual x5670 / 24GB / GTX960 4GB / 240GB SSD + 640GB HDD / PD13 Ultimate
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I did not get an update from Cyberlink support, but it "looks" like they are working on this issue

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/43123.page

"Fixes the issue that Scene Detection doesn't work for DV-AVI clips."

Win8.1 Pro x64 / Dual x5670 / 24GB / GTX960 4GB / 240GB SSD + 640GB HDD / PD13 Ultimate
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