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Watercolorwilly [Avatar]
Senior Member Location: Phoenix Joined: Mar 13, 2011 11:35 Messages: 211 Offline
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I'm considering buying a new PC system. Is there any PC configuration that will play back a preview at higher resolution without that annoying jerky motion, and other effects? I have a 23" HD monitor now and the normal HD is so pixelated and distracting - but at least it runs with little jerkiness. Will it get worse with PD13 coming soon? Bill Seifert
HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-2022
8 core
AMD Radeon
Windows 11, 16 GB RAM

borgus1 [Avatar]
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Worse with PD13? Probably not. Yet as programs become more sophisticated they demand more resources.

This should help you...
http://www.cyberlink.com/support/product-faq-content.do?id=16444&prodId=4
Watercolorwilly [Avatar]
Senior Member Location: Phoenix Joined: Mar 13, 2011 11:35 Messages: 211 Offline
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Thanks. That is what I needed. But past experience says that such specs usually are minimums. Does anyone have experience with these and should any of them be increased to make sure I have the performance I seek. My last PC was supposed to have done the job. It never did, no matter what I tried. Sigh. Bill Seifert
HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-2022
8 core
AMD Radeon
Windows 11, 16 GB RAM

jcardana
Senior Contributor Location: USA-NM Joined: Aug 04, 2014 10:11 Messages: 650 Offline
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Basic "purchased" computers tend to be lopsided. Meaning... Good CPU/Mem & HDD but poor to fair video card.

If you're looking to get into Video processing, look at the Video Card first. I bought my current rig from newegg.com. Less than $1000.

CyberPowerPC | Win7HP-64 | AMD FX-8320 3.5 Ghz | 8GB Mem | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB | WEI 5.9


My Video Editing Computer
| My DirectX Diagnostics


PowerDirector 15.0.2820.0 | PhotoDirector 7.0.7504.0 | AudioDirector 6.0.5902.0 | ColorDirector 4.0.4627.0 | Power2Go 9.0.2602.0


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Watercolorwilly [Avatar]
Senior Member Location: Phoenix Joined: Mar 13, 2011 11:35 Messages: 211 Offline
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Thanks. This will help when I search for a new PC. But I can't interpret this information very well. For example, the video - what video card works well for you?

Bill Bill Seifert
HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-2022
8 core
AMD Radeon
Windows 11, 16 GB RAM

Richmond Dan
Senior Contributor Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 07, 2014 17:17 Messages: 673 Offline
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If you click on "Computer Specifics" at the bottom of jcardana's post, you'll see the full listing, including the video card. (I, too, wondered why he didn't list it, since he said it was important). Regards,
Dan
Power Director 21-Ultimate
v 21.0.3111.0
XPS-8940, Win-10 64-bit,
Intel Core i9-10900 processor
(10 core, 20M Cache),
32GB DDR4 RAM, 2TB M.2 PCIe NVME SSD, 2TB 7200 RPM SATA HDD,
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB GDDR6
fkaMikeB
Senior Member Location: Ohio, USA Joined: Aug 09, 2014 23:22 Messages: 217 Offline
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After having built my last 3 (or is it 4?) systems, I decided to purchase this new one (see specs in my signature below) because the components are pretty close to what I would have bought to build one again, and I liked the case and the sale price was pretty good. I'll be upgrading it as I go anyway.

This is the graphics card I have: MSI R7 250 1GB-DDR5 OC. It is doing the job right now, but I am not a PowerDirector "power user" like many of the folks on this forum. So I don't believe I'm putting huge demands on my card and system anywhere near what these guys do. In my opinion, you need to research what's available and buy above and beyond what the minimum requirements are.

The Cyberlink system requirements for a graphics card say:
128 MB VGA VRAM or higher (1 GB or higher VRAM and OpenCL capable are recommended)
Definitely go with 1GB or higher! I don't know why they would even suggest 128 MB. LOL.

Good luck and post your new system specs! Mike B.
|>>PowerSpecG311 PC(2014)<<||>>Windows®7Pro 64-bit OS<<|
|MB:AsRock FM2A88X Extreme6+|CPU:AMD A10-7850KQuad 3.7GHz|RAM:8GB DDR3|GPU:MSI Radeon™R7 250 1GD5OC|
|HDD:Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB|HDD:WD Red 2TBx2|RAID:SansDigital TR5M+B 2TBx3|BD-R:LG BE14NU40 Ext|
|Camera:Canon Ultura miniDV|WebCam:Logitech C910|ADVC110 Analog/Digital Converter|
|PowerDirector12Ultra.2930|PhotoDirector5Ultra.5424|AudioDirector4Ultra.3522|Cyberlink MediaSuite10 OEM|
stevek
Senior Contributor Location: Houston, Texas USA Joined: Jan 25, 2011 12:18 Messages: 4663 Offline
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If you are buying an I-7 type CPU, the on-board video chip works perfectly well. I would have not said that even a couple of months ago.

Spend your $$ foir a better CPU, more memory, and a SSD (as your system drive).. .
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jcardana
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Quote: If you click on "Computer Specifics" at the bottom of jcardana's post, you'll see the full listing, including the video card. (I, too, wondered why he didn't list it, since he said it was important).
Oh that's simple... I didn't bother to actually look at what I was copying CyberPowerPC | Win7HP-64 | AMD FX-8320 3.5 Ghz | 8GB Mem | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB | WEI 5.9


My Video Editing Computer
| My DirectX Diagnostics


PowerDirector 15.0.2820.0 | PhotoDirector 7.0.7504.0 | AudioDirector 6.0.5902.0 | ColorDirector 4.0.4627.0 | Power2Go 9.0.2602.0


Sutter Hill SDA Church
| Anadrac_Organ_Works | My_Youtube_Channel
jcardana
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Quote: If you are buying an I-7 type CPU, the on-board video chip works perfectly well. I would have not said that even a couple of months ago.

Spend your $$ foir a better CPU, more memory, and a SSD (as your system drive)..

I politely disagree. Even if he does get an I-7, I think he should focus on the vidcard first. For Vid editing that's the most crucial part. Nothing less than 3GHz cpu & 8GB mem.

How much better response time do you get with an SSD? I keep getting conflicting stories. CyberPowerPC | Win7HP-64 | AMD FX-8320 3.5 Ghz | 8GB Mem | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB | WEI 5.9


My Video Editing Computer
| My DirectX Diagnostics


PowerDirector 15.0.2820.0 | PhotoDirector 7.0.7504.0 | AudioDirector 6.0.5902.0 | ColorDirector 4.0.4627.0 | Power2Go 9.0.2602.0


Sutter Hill SDA Church
| Anadrac_Organ_Works | My_Youtube_Channel
fkaMikeB
Senior Member Location: Ohio, USA Joined: Aug 09, 2014 23:22 Messages: 217 Offline
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Here's a short, interesting article I came across on building an editing PC: How I Built My Custom Photo/Video Editing PC for Under $800. Mine's a little better. Mike B.
|>>PowerSpecG311 PC(2014)<<||>>Windows®7Pro 64-bit OS<<|
|MB:AsRock FM2A88X Extreme6+|CPU:AMD A10-7850KQuad 3.7GHz|RAM:8GB DDR3|GPU:MSI Radeon™R7 250 1GD5OC|
|HDD:Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB|HDD:WD Red 2TBx2|RAID:SansDigital TR5M+B 2TBx3|BD-R:LG BE14NU40 Ext|
|Camera:Canon Ultura miniDV|WebCam:Logitech C910|ADVC110 Analog/Digital Converter|
|PowerDirector12Ultra.2930|PhotoDirector5Ultra.5424|AudioDirector4Ultra.3522|Cyberlink MediaSuite10 OEM|
stevek
Senior Contributor Location: Houston, Texas USA Joined: Jan 25, 2011 12:18 Messages: 4663 Offline
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Quote:
Quote: If you are buying an I-7 type CPU, the on-board video chip works perfectly well. I would have not said that even a couple of months ago.

Spend your $$ foir a better CPU, more memory, and a SSD (as your system drive)..

I politely disagree. Even if he does get an I-7, I think he should focus on the vidcard first. For Vid editing that's the most crucial part. Nothing less than 3GHz cpu & 8GB mem.

How much better response time do you get with an SSD? I keep getting conflicting stories.


Re: SSD I'm getting a immense difference in performance using a SSD over a hard drive. BUT many people buy a small SSD as the system drive and then use a hard drive to store their resources. Doing that negates the advantages of the SSD (read/write/access). If you have a SSD and a hard drive and you want to test them, download HDTune to see the difference in speed. Speed of the device does not tell the complete story as you know.

I have an Alienware laptop that has a top of the line NVidia card. Somewhere along the line the video card "got lost". I didn't notice any performance differences between the Nvidia 600 series and the HD 4000 GPU on the mother board.

I guess I'm wondering why SPEED is such a topic for discussion. In the old days, a computer would take 10 hours to encode a 1 hour video; then more recently it would take 4 hours for each hour of video. Now it takes about one hour of processing for one hour of video. At one to one, I can get something to eat and my video is done. Copying the folder set to DVD or copying the DVD takes up almost the same amount of time.

Also, many people will tell you that software rendering will produce a better quality video than one using hardware rendering. I can't see the difference personally.

MikeB; thanks for posting that information. The author tends to agree that a top of the line GPU is not necessary for good performance.

No one (until now) has talked about maintenance on thew computer. If it is loaded with garbage and the hard drives are fragmented, then performance will suffer. How often do people delete junk files, unused and trial programs, defrag a hard drive (not a SSD) and generally keep a computer clean and cool?

Here is my dxdiag information on my main computer.: I'll post the information on the Alienware computer later.

Velocity Micro
 Filename
DxDiag.txt
[Disk]
 Description
dxdiag on Velocity Micro.
 Filesize
63 Kbytes
 Downloaded:
316 time(s)

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Watercolorwilly [Avatar]
Senior Member Location: Phoenix Joined: Mar 13, 2011 11:35 Messages: 211 Offline
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This discussion started off with the desire for a PC configuration that will allow me to play back at the high resolution without jerking, or even stopping at times. It's so difficult to evaluate what I've created when I have to burn it to DVD to see how well it plays. That's a waste of time and disks.

My desire is to be able to play the full project on my HD monitor before burning it. Is that too much to expect?

Where must I improve my current system as described below my name.

Bill Bill Seifert
HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-2022
8 core
AMD Radeon
Windows 11, 16 GB RAM

stevek
Senior Contributor Location: Houston, Texas USA Joined: Jan 25, 2011 12:18 Messages: 4663 Offline
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Quote: This discussion started off with the desire for a PC configuration that will allow me to play back at the high resolution without jerking, or even stopping at times. It's so difficult to evaluate what I've created when I have to burn it to DVD to see how well it plays. That's a waste of time and disks.

My desire is to be able to play the full project on my HD monitor before burning it. Is that too much to expect?

Where must I improve my current system as described below my name.

Bill


Bill, your computer should be good enough to play the project on your HD Monitor. Are you making a folder set? You can play it with several programs including the free VLC to check the project. That eliminates any issues with burning to a disc to see the project?

Please do a dxdiag.exe diagnosis of your computer and post the test results as I have above. Here are the instructions - PartB

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/7958.page


There is no personal information except for the name of your computer. It will tell us eabotu your drivers, state of your hard drive, etc.
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Watercolorwilly [Avatar]
Senior Member Location: Phoenix Joined: Mar 13, 2011 11:35 Messages: 211 Offline
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OK. Here's me DXDIAG. I have a W7, PD12, VDE140423-01, with McAfee running.
 Filename
64billseifertDxDiag.txt
[Disk]
 Description
 Filesize
47 Kbytes
 Downloaded:
341 time(s)
 Filename
BillSeifertDxDiag 9-3-14.txt
[Disk]
 Description
 Filesize
53 Kbytes
 Downloaded:
331 time(s)
Bill Seifert
HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-2022
8 core
AMD Radeon
Windows 11, 16 GB RAM

fkaMikeB
Senior Member Location: Ohio, USA Joined: Aug 09, 2014 23:22 Messages: 217 Offline
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You should update your video card drivers. I think that is your main problem with the jerky video.
Also, your system BIOS is out of date (2010). At least check and see if you need to update it.
Otherwise your system should be OK for video...

P.S. In the first sentence of the original post you said you were considering buying a new PC, hence that is the direction it took.

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Mike B.
|>>PowerSpecG311 PC(2014)<<||>>Windows®7Pro 64-bit OS<<|
|MB:AsRock FM2A88X Extreme6+|CPU:AMD A10-7850KQuad 3.7GHz|RAM:8GB DDR3|GPU:MSI Radeon™R7 250 1GD5OC|
|HDD:Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB|HDD:WD Red 2TBx2|RAID:SansDigital TR5M+B 2TBx3|BD-R:LG BE14NU40 Ext|
|Camera:Canon Ultura miniDV|WebCam:Logitech C910|ADVC110 Analog/Digital Converter|
|PowerDirector12Ultra.2930|PhotoDirector5Ultra.5424|AudioDirector4Ultra.3522|Cyberlink MediaSuite10 OEM|
jcardana
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Quote: No one (until now) has talked about maintenance on thew computer. If it is loaded with garbage and the hard drives are fragmented, then performance will suffer. How often do people delete junk files, unused and trial programs, defrag a hard drive (not a SSD) and generally keep a computer clean and cool?
You are SO right! I'm in the business of "Computer Maintenance" and my favorite tool is Process Explorer. I find that a fair system runs between 60-75 processes. I've seen some Win7 systems dragging on because they have 110+. CyberPowerPC | Win7HP-64 | AMD FX-8320 3.5 Ghz | 8GB Mem | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB | WEI 5.9


My Video Editing Computer
| My DirectX Diagnostics


PowerDirector 15.0.2820.0 | PhotoDirector 7.0.7504.0 | AudioDirector 6.0.5902.0 | ColorDirector 4.0.4627.0 | Power2Go 9.0.2602.0


Sutter Hill SDA Church
| Anadrac_Organ_Works | My_Youtube_Channel
Watercolorwilly [Avatar]
Senior Member Location: Phoenix Joined: Mar 13, 2011 11:35 Messages: 211 Offline
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Thanks, everyone! I will follow through on your suggestions. Now I have to figure out how to update my drivers and the BIOS - I have no idea about this. But it would be worth it if I didn't have to replace my PC and all the stuff I installed in it - what a pain!

Bill Bill Seifert
HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-2022
8 core
AMD Radeon
Windows 11, 16 GB RAM

fkaMikeB
Senior Member Location: Ohio, USA Joined: Aug 09, 2014 23:22 Messages: 217 Offline
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I highly recommend getting disk imaging software. Mike B.
|>>PowerSpecG311 PC(2014)<<||>>Windows®7Pro 64-bit OS<<|
|MB:AsRock FM2A88X Extreme6+|CPU:AMD A10-7850KQuad 3.7GHz|RAM:8GB DDR3|GPU:MSI Radeon™R7 250 1GD5OC|
|HDD:Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB|HDD:WD Red 2TBx2|RAID:SansDigital TR5M+B 2TBx3|BD-R:LG BE14NU40 Ext|
|Camera:Canon Ultura miniDV|WebCam:Logitech C910|ADVC110 Analog/Digital Converter|
|PowerDirector12Ultra.2930|PhotoDirector5Ultra.5424|AudioDirector4Ultra.3522|Cyberlink MediaSuite10 OEM|
fkaMikeB
Senior Member Location: Ohio, USA Joined: Aug 09, 2014 23:22 Messages: 217 Offline
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Quote:
Quote: No one (until now) has talked about maintenance on thew computer. If it is loaded with garbage and the hard drives are fragmented, then performance will suffer. How often do people delete junk files, unused and trial programs, defrag a hard drive (not a SSD) and generally keep a computer clean and cool?
You are SO right! I'm in the business of "Computer Maintenance" and my favorite tool is Process Explorer. I find that a fair system runs between 60-75 processes. I've seen some Win7 systems dragging on because they have 110+.
How much junk/garbage files do PowerDirector/other Cyberlink programs leave behind that doesn't get auto-deleted? Mike B.
|>>PowerSpecG311 PC(2014)<<||>>Windows®7Pro 64-bit OS<<|
|MB:AsRock FM2A88X Extreme6+|CPU:AMD A10-7850KQuad 3.7GHz|RAM:8GB DDR3|GPU:MSI Radeon™R7 250 1GD5OC|
|HDD:Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB|HDD:WD Red 2TBx2|RAID:SansDigital TR5M+B 2TBx3|BD-R:LG BE14NU40 Ext|
|Camera:Canon Ultura miniDV|WebCam:Logitech C910|ADVC110 Analog/Digital Converter|
|PowerDirector12Ultra.2930|PhotoDirector5Ultra.5424|AudioDirector4Ultra.3522|Cyberlink MediaSuite10 OEM|
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