Quote: Anyway, you won't have HA for 2k and 4K output, nobody has that.

Just not true, newer cards can support 4096x4096 encoding, one has with PD what CL wants to expose. Attached pic shows HA encoding for 4K in PD13.

Julien, to my knowledge, PD has never supported any form of dual video cards for encoding in PD, SLI or Crossfire. It was discussed in a thread just recently and this was the end state, no follow up posted concerning NVIDIA directly but I've never seen it supported either.

Quote: R&D at CyberLink are aware that CrossFire doesn't function for PDR12. In a test, ATI's encoder would not use the second GPU with GraphEdit, a Microsoft DirectShow SDK tool for Windows.
Links to check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GraphEdit
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/windows/de...top/dd407274%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
Keep asking ATI about this matter. Currently PDR12 cant handle how the card uses the GPU under current implementation.

The information above has been drawn from a reply given by CyberLink and a search for GraphEdit.

I have asked a follow up question for Nvidia Dual SLI card set ups.

Dafydd

Jeff

Quote:

Quote: I tried to render in h264 and surprise, I got an error message. 1080i still works fine...
1920x1080i @ 24Mbps renders in 12.2 seconds.

What was the error? If error complaining about driver/Quicktime update or the like it could be the anomaly that I had reported awhile ago, create a custom 60p profile that mimics the default 60p and it should go away.

12.2 seconds for 1? I had 10 in the timeline.

Jeff

Note that while this "custom profile" fixes the problem with not being able to use the hardware enoder (CUDA in my case), it seems SVRT is not allowed for boats.wmv at 1920x1080x60p/28 Mbps l . And "intelligent SVRT" does not work either.

For this reason, I think this particular PD13 sample file makes a bad source file for video benchmarking - it's not possible to test SVRT speed.
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SVRT speed is actually speed of "not doing the work". So I would not be so worried about.

Bad part (to me) is that last night I setup my new-to-me 6 core PC with an older video card (Quadro FX3800, didn't have time to move my Quadro 6000 on it). The RAM memory also increased from 8 to 15GB.

Re-doing the encoding of the 10 samples took basically the same amount of time. Sure, CPU utilization was at 60-70% (from 100%) and the weaker video card was used at 70-80% (from 26%)... but the encoding speed didn't increase. I even tried to render on my SSD instead of my usual HDD and still nothing.

to JL_JL.

can you post the GPU-Z shot of 4K HA rendering in PD13?
thank you. 'no bridge too far'

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Quote:

Quote: Anyway, you won't have HA for 2k and 4K output, nobody has that.

Just not true, newer cards can support 4096x4096 encoding, one has with PD what CL wants to expose. Attached pic shows HA encoding for 4K in PD13.

Julien, to my knowledge, PD has never supported any form of dual video cards for encoding in PD, SLI or Crossfire. It was discussed in a thread just recently and this was the end state, no follow up posted concerning NVIDIA directly but I've never seen it supported either.

Quote: R&D at CyberLink are aware that CrossFire doesn't function for PDR12. In a test, ATI's encoder would not use the second GPU with GraphEdit, a Microsoft DirectShow SDK tool for Windows.
Links to check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GraphEdit
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/windows/de...top/dd407274%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
Keep asking ATI about this matter. Currently PDR12 cant handle how the card uses the GPU under current implementation.

The information above has been drawn from a reply given by CyberLink and a search for GraphEdit.

I have asked a follow up question for Nvidia Dual SLI card set ups.

Dafydd

Jeff

can you post the GPU-Z shot of 4K HA rendering in PD13?
thank you. 'no bridge too far'

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Quote: to JL_JL.

can you post the GPU-Z shot of 4K HA rendering in PD13?
thank you.

Here you go...

Encode time for the same sample test timeline I quoted above, 4K encoding with PD13 setting AVC 4K 4096x2160/60p (50Mbps):
GPU 3:36, GPU load ~10%, VE load ~60% (pic attached)
CPU 7:04, GPU and VE load 0%

CPU is a i7-3770

Jeff

Now I see - nVidia states that nvenc is capable of 4k encoding in latest version:

http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/nvenc/v4.0/NVENC_AppNote.pdf

Quote: Now I see - nVidia states that nvenc is capable of 4k encoding in latest version:

http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/nvenc/v4.0/NVENC_AppNote.pdf

Looks like it also says Maxwell can support H.264 lossless. I wonder if that can be used in PowerDirector.
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Looks like the Maxwell2 also will support h265 encoding in future?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8526/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-review/5

Surprisingly, even after only 7 months since the first Maxwell 1 GPUs, NVIDIA has once again overhauled NVENC, and this time more significantly. The Maxwell 2 version of NVENC further builds off of the Maxwell 1 NVENC by adding full support for HEVC (H.265) encoding. Like HDMI 2.0 support, this marks the very first PC GPU we’ve seen integrate support for this more advanced codec.
At this point there’s really not much that can be done with Maxwell 2’s HEVC encoder – it’s not exposed in anything or used in NVIDIA’s current tools – but NVIDIA is laying the groundwork for the future once HEVC support becomes more commonplace in other hardware and software.

Quote: Looks like the Maxwell2 also will support h265 encoding in future?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8526/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-review/5

I would take nVidia announcements with a grain of salt.
They had press releases about nVenc and support in Cyberlink MediaExpresso when they released the GTX 680 2.5 years ago.
They said support in PowerDirector was forthcoming. In fact, that never materialized. All we ever got was CUDA support, which is now being obsoleted by nVidia.

I don't know if the blame lays more with nVidia or Cyberlink, and I don't care - the end result is the same.

Even if the Maxwell 2 hardware is available and supports h.265, unless the software for it is also released and available, it doesn't do you any good.

Since I work in the tech industry, I know enough to consider this kind of announcement as vaporware / FUD.

Microsoft was very good at it in late 1980s / early 1990s, successfully killing a superior competitor, OS/2 2.x.
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Is not NVidia's fault that Cyberlink took 2.5 years to add support for nvenc (besides a beta).
Same as is not their fault that Sony Vegas still uses an encoder dated Dec 2010. Or that Adobe still doesn't use at all hardware encoding.
Same like is not Intel or Microsoft fault that Corel just now released a 64 bit Pinnacle.

NLE software is waaaay behind hardware. Money talk I guess...

Quote: Is not NVidia's fault that Cyberlink took 2.5 years to add support for nvenc (besides a beta).
Same as is not their fault that Sony Vegas still uses an encoder dated Dec 2010. Or that Adobe still doesn't use at all hardware encoding.
Same like is not Intel or Microsoft fault that Corel just now released a 64 bit Pinnacle.

NLE software is waaaay behind hardware. Money talk I guess...

my memory is terrible thing...
last year or so announced that adobe will utilize NVidia's GPU encoding???

http://www.nvidia.com/object/adobe-media-encoder-cc.html 'no bridge too far'

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They just did, on the last version of Creative Cloud (2014).
But requires dual GPU - one for processing of playback engine/effects (like before), another one for encoding. That's beyond stupid.

The updates for PD12 seem to have disappeared from the CL website?!

Just about to embark on a new video and would like the latest patch but can't find any support for PD12. Any ideas?

Was wondering the same thing as previous post. No updates available for PD 12??? Chris

CL put the PD12 update back on the "Software Updates" page, no longer several updates like there used to be. Now dated 12/3/14 but same 3403 update as original on 10/28/2014? Attached pic shows it's really a different update, maybe does the same, who will ever know.

Jeff

Having an issue with getting this update to complete the download. I get an error message just at the end of the download saying the download couldn't complete because of error type MD5 checking. Is anyone else having this problem?

New patch for PDR12 released today: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/0/44277.page#229189