New hardware for video editing

david445

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Jul 15, 2014 05:54

After test and try I give up, it's not possible to use my laptop for multicam editing with the need to decode three H264 stream in realtime, both using PD12 or another fast NLVE sw I've tested.
PD12 appear to be working at first, but after first 5min of recording videos start lagging to an unusable level.

So the best option it's a new real PC, cost tag about $1300 (€1000), after some check I've these conf that will use also with realtime 3D engine, do you have any comment/suggestion (especially about the mobo)?

Case Midi Cooler Master CM 690 III ATX Black
Internal HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 2TB 3.5" 64MB SATA3
SSD Crucial MX100 2.5" 128GB read 550MB/s write 150MB/s SATA3
RAM DDR3 Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 16GB (2x8GB) 1600MHz CL9 1.5V
PSU PC XFX TS 550W ATX 80+ Gold
CPU Intel Core i7-4790 Socket 1150 3,6GHz 8MB 22nm HD Graphics 4600 Boxed
CPU Cooler Raijintek Themis Socket Intel 775/1150/1155/1156/1366/2011 AMD
Mobo Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H Socket 1150 Intel H97 DDR3 USB3 ATX
GPU Sapphire - R9-270x-4gddr5
DVD burner Samsung SH-224DB DVD/CD 24x Sata Black Bulk
OS Microsoft Windows 8.1 64bit OEM DVD EN

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Carl312

Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline

Jul 15, 2014 16:12

If you put a SSD drive I would recommend you go for at least 240 GB or more. 128 GB is a little too small for Windows and all of your Programs. The Price of SSD drives has gotten very reasonable. You can find 256 GB SSD drives for just a little over $100.

PowerDirector works best if it has 60-100 GB (best at 100 GB) of free space available on the OS drive.

You should think about a 600 watt or greater Power Supply. I have a 700 Watt in my computer.

Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

david445

Member Joined: Oct 30, 2012 05:28 Messages: 129 Offline

Jul 15, 2014 16:35

Quote: If you put a SSD drive I would recommend you go for at least 240 GB or more. 128 GB is a little too small for Windows and all of your Programs. The Price of SSD drives has gotten very reasonable. You can find 256 GB SSD drives for just a little over $100.

PowerDirector works best if it has 60-100 GB (best at 100 GB) of free space available on the OS drive.

You should think about a 600 watt or greater Power Supply. I have a 700 Watt in my computer.

Unfortunately to remain on budget I can't afford a bigger SSD. 120GB will be enough for Win and the essential multimedia programs, since PC will be used only for that.
PD need 100GB for BD production, but can be also on the HDD?
Also about power supply using http://www.coolermaster.outervision.com/ and this one http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp tell a 430w will be recommended with this rig, you think 550w will be not enough? I'm not an expert, my first system conf.

Andrew - Wales, UK

Contributor Location: Wales, UK Joined: Jan 27, 2009 19:16 Messages: 545 Offline

Jul 15, 2014 17:17

You could use the SSD just for Windows and then install all your applications on your 2TB drive. The difference in price on this side of the pond between an 128GB and 240GB is about 25GBP so I'd recommend the 240GB.

I think a 430w power supply is low. If you decide to upgrade your GPU in the future, some will not run on 500w or less. The R9 270X is a nice card but maybe in the future you may want to put another one in your rig to run in crossfire (like me), in which case you'll definitely need a bigger power supply. I think mine is 850w on Alienware and 475w on the Dell. The Dell does not have room for another GPU like the Alienware does.

I bought the cheapest Alienware and put my own components in such as an SSD, extra RAM, blu-ray burner, extra HDDs and an additional GPU. Certainly a lot cheaper than getting them to do it!

Andrew

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david445

Member Joined: Oct 30, 2012 05:28 Messages: 129 Offline

Jul 16, 2014 03:41

Quote:
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I think a 430w power supply is low. If you decide to upgrade your GPU in the future, some will not run on 500w or less. The R9 270X is a nice card but maybe in the future you may want to put another one in your rig to run in crossfire (like me), in which case you'll definitely need a bigger power supply. I think mine is 850w on Alienware and 475w on the Dell. The Dell does not have room for another GPU like the Alienware does.

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Andrew

Recalculating PSU with double ram, 3hdd, double GPU, BD burner, etc got a suggested 650w PSU. Will look to have XFX 650w instead of 550 for future proof if this stay in the budget.

My concern it's about the mobo, what I need to care about for multimedia usage?

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Carl312

Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline

Jul 16, 2014 08:48

The Mother Board is the most important part of a computer.

You cannot skip on quality or price for a Mother Board.
You want a full size Mother board. Not one of the mini-boards.

This one would be a better choice over Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H Socket 1150

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128717

Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

david445

Member Joined: Oct 30, 2012 05:28 Messages: 129 Offline

Jul 16, 2014 09:00

Quote: The Mother Board is the most important part of a computer.

You cannot skip on quality or price for a Mother Board.
You want a full size Mother board. Not one of the mini-boards.

This one would be a better choice over Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H Socket 1150

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128717

This is a mATX mobo, always good respect ATX?
Also why Z97 if I didn't OC?

I was evaluating also Asus H97-Plus, any thought on that?

Carl312

Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline

Jul 16, 2014 10:15

Quote:

Quote: The Mother Board is the most important part of a computer.

You cannot skip on quality or price for a Mother Board.
You want a full size Mother board. Not one of the mini-boards.

This one would be a better choice over Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H Socket 1150

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128717

This is a mATX mobo, always good respect ATX?
Also why Z97 if I didn't OC?

I was evaluating also Asus H97-Plus, any thought on that?

Asus is a good brand, I know very little about the Asus line of Motherboards. I have a friend that loves Asus Motherboards.
Asus like any Motherboard Manufacturer makes cheap motherboards and more expensive motherboards. The Quality is very much in line with prices.

ATX is the current form factor for computers today. It is a hardware design that specifies the mounting and sizes of the motherboards, power supplies and hard drives in the computer case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX

Mini-ATX is a smaller form factor for the Motherboard, it is a lower quality Motherboard in my opinion.
Mini-ATX does not support all of the functions of a full size ATX Motherboard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_ATX

If you are going to be doing High Definition Video editing, you need all the computer you can afford. HD Video editing is the most demanding application your computer will ever do.

It is more demanding than Super Games. Although a Super Game computer may be able to edit video. HD video takes more computer.

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Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

david445

Member Joined: Oct 30, 2012 05:28 Messages: 129 Offline

Jul 16, 2014 16:37

After some comparisons decided will go for original Gigabyte, more complete in term of features, easy to install and appear to be solid, thanks for the useful discussion.