Quote: With PD I still need to produce to memory stick or sd and then burnimg and it does plays kinda correctly, with some very small artifact

Still wondering why PD is rendering when the original video file is just perfect "as is". Sony PlayMemories does it perfectly...

If someone at Cyberlink wants to contact me for your 3D HD AVCHD 2.0 testing I'm available...

My m2ts HD 3D AVCHD 2.0 files are perfectly generated from my Sony HDR-TD10, again, why rendering... ?

Sylvain

I can let you know that 3D blu ray high definition files (blu ray) are made with no issues. I can also let you know that 2D AVCHD files are made correctly.

Even though the AVCHD files are made properly, they still need to be encoded with any menu to play on a blu ray player. The disc must have the navigation information encoded on it. If you want no encoding, your player must be able to play the video files on the disc.

What artifact?

I have a Sony HDR -T20. .
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Before we talk about "no problem"...

Just drop a m2ts HD 3D files on the timeline.

Then go try to use SVRT on it, what do you see?

Just try to go and "Produce" to disk (or memory stick) with HD 3D anyformat... use SVRT there, nothing...

Now, about your "no problem" tell me how you can "Create Disc" / "3D Disc" "BluRay"\
Encoding H.264, 3D output format "3D-BD"
Now try selecting HD 1920x1080/60p

Since this format is not made available in PD how can you say "no problem"?? Check playing the files when your camera is connected to your 3D HD TV and with what you produce, can't be the same for sure...

Sylvain

The reason 1080p in various forms does not work properly on a BluRay Disk, is because 1080p is not a part of the official BluRay Specification.

For a BluRay disk the official spec says 1080i (interlaced).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#Media_format

The board of the BluRay Association:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_Association

You can argue that a BluRay disk should support 1080p, maybe so, but it won't until 1080p is added to the specification for BluRay Disks.
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Then give me 1920x1080/60i. SINCE you can "Produce" BD on a memory stick and then use software like imgburn, it can be done, also, software from Competition (SONY Movie Studio and Playmemories) do it, why not PD? Seems like it's a question of $/licensing somewhere, right? Else why not.

Check section 9.1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD

As for readers, yes, many, here's one
Specs of Sony BDP-S590 reader
Video BD
•HD (24Hz) (24p True Cinema) : Yes
•HD 24Hz to 60Hz conversion : Yes
•HD (60Hz) : 480i 480p 720p 1080i 1080p
•HD (50Hz) : No

For education purpose
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1437294/the-avchd-3d-thread

Quote: Then give me 1920x1080/60i. SINCE you can "Produce" BD on a memory stick and then use software like imgburn, it can be done, also, software from Competition (SONY Movie Studio and Playmemories) do it, why not PD? Seems like it's a question of $/licensing somewhere, right? Else why not.

Check section 9.1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD

As for readers, yes, many, here's one
Specs of Sony BDP-S590 reader
Video BD
•HD (24Hz) (24p True Cinema) : Yes
•HD 24Hz to 60Hz conversion : Yes
•HD (60Hz) : 480i 480p 720p 1080i 1080p
•HD (50Hz) : No

For education purpose
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1437294/the-avchd-3d-thread

Hi VE2FET,
You have raised a valid observation (I don't know if it's correct or not). I'm sure CyberLink should read your comment and see you've volunteered your services .
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Hi VE2FET, I found a sample on line and posted some Q in this thread - http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/30241.page

Given the original footage is 3D 1080/60i, I take it all you want to do is author and burn a 3D BD at 1080/60i which should be possible with a mod. The reason the mod I made is not smooth on you BD Player is that it is making a 60p stream which is probably to much for your HW player. That said I think I will be able to make a patch that will do what you want (but I'm away for a couple of days so give me some time to play). From my experience I don't think you will get SVRT to work and it will always re-encode but I would suggest that this will probably result in better results as parts need to be re-encoded anyway (around joins, transitions, titles etc etc). I guess we will see in a few days once I work out what can be done.

Thanks
Nathan PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

FYI - I don't think the official BD spec for 3D support 60 or 50i but AVC Ver 2.0 does. If that is the case then Cyberlink is correct in their presentation of options so I'm not sure we will see any official support in PD of what you want to do till the spec is updated.

....though with some luck we should be able to generate a hack that works for what you want. PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

Excellent, I stay tune! :
Sylvain

I have a TD10 too.

I guess it's about building menu structure, since PowerDirector is using 24Mbps for AVCHD 2.0 1920*1080 60i and it works perfectly when producing file.

Quote: I have a TD10 too.

I guess it's about building menu structure, since PowerDirector is using 24Mbps for AVCHD 2.0 1920*1080 60i and it works perfectly when producing file.

We are talking 3D mt2s from HRD-TD10, not 2D.
Sylvain

I think I got lost in all of the above. Just to help me understand, here is a screen shot of 3D AVCHD with the options. What am I not understanding? In simple terms please.

I understand that you want "p" rather than 'i". Can you see a difference on your TV? What are you playing the AVCHD disc on? A HDTV or a projector?

Please look at this and explain why your TV gives a better "i" than "p". They are both the same if you play it on a TV.

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/interlaced-vs-progressive-scanning-methods.html

How are you getting an output from the Sony PlayMemories? It does modify the video clip when you burn it to an AVCHD disc.
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"- Videos recorded in the [HD PS] (28Mbps) or [HD FX] (24Mbps) recording mode cannot be written to an AVCHD disc with the original image quality. If you save videos in an AVCHD disc using "PlayMemories Home", their bit rate will be converted to the one equivalent to [HD FH].
Due to the bit rate conversion, it takes longer than usual to create a disc."
Also, the recording time that can be saved to 1 disc varies by device. "

Do you want me to post a screen shot of SVRT options for the video file in Produce?

Please look at your first post and then look at the second one. I replied to the first one and then you added more information. It is hard to hit a moving target.

You never replied ot my question about the small artifact. What is it?





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OK - see if this works (first cut so feedback please as I don't do the whole 3D thing). It should produce a BD disk that uses the same settings as the AVCHD settings but lets you burn as a BD disk (not a AVCHD Ver 2.0 file structure):
- 1080/60 or 50i for the main movie
- 1080/23.976 for the menu

Make sure you have the same settings as per the pic

Use "TurnOnBD1080i" to change the output from 1080/24p to 1080/50 or 60i
Use "DefaultSettings" to change the output back to the default.

Let me know how it goes and I'll update the files. PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

Tried it as you asked.

Still (as any other 3D production in any ways I do it) the text of the menu don't show up.

Selecting the video what was available made the Sony reader to keep turning but nother never happened, it left the meny screen showing with no animation.

BTW the video m2ts files from the Sony 3D HD video camera HDR-TD10 are 60i.

I'll stick with producing AVCHD to external memory and plugging them to the BluRay reader what has a port for it and it works good with 60i. Only problem is PD does not allowed selecting my WD My Book USB HD as "external" so can not produce directly to it, so weird imposing their customers with such a limitation...
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Seems odd to me as I've just retested and can:
- PD3D1.JPG : Burn a 3D-BD disk just fine with Menu
- PD3D2.JPG : The output is defiantly 1080/60i for the main movie and 1080/24p for the menu. The disc plays fine on a PS3 (not a 3D TV though so I can not tell but both files do have the two videos streams required for MVC).

The only production issue I say was the moving sample inside the love heart on the menu is black.

Are you sure you are using the settings shown in PD3D1.JPG? PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG