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Newbie has simple question on transitions rendering taking a long time to complete
dinopet01 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Aug 31, 2013 15:04 Messages: 12 Offline
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Hello Everyone,
I placed a transition between two clips on the timeline and the render time is really long!

I would think it would go much faster, because...I'm using a brand new 16GB Ram, 8 CORE AMD PC with an MSI 2GB Ram GPU card...running Powerdirector 11 Ultimare Suite -- although I am using HD video clips in my project. Any ideas why rendering is taking so long? Could it be the HD footage?

I UNchecked "enable HD video processing (shadow file)" in my preferences, and I am going to check the "Enable Open CL technology to speed up video effects/render preview" in the Hardware Acceleration preference.

Any advice is GREATLY APPRECIATED!






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Cap'n Kevin
Senior Contributor Location: Chebeague Island, Maine Joined: Dec 26, 2008 20:22 Messages: 2011 Offline
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Quote: Hello Everyone,
I placed a transition between two clips on the timeline and the render time is really long!

I would think it would go much faster, because...I'm using a brand new 16GB Ram, 8 CORE AMD PC with an MSI 2GB Ram GPU card...running Powerdirector 11 Ultimare Suite -- although I am using HD video clips in my project. Any ideas why rendering is taking so long? Could it be the HD footage?

I UNchecked "enable HD video processing (shadow file)" in my preferences, and I am going to check the "Enable Open CL technology to speed up video effects/render preview" in the Hardware Acceleration preference.

Any advice is GREATLY APPRECIATED!


From what I can see your video clips are rendering while they are on the timeline indicated by the green line on the top if the timeline. This isn't normally present unless you highlighted this section and then selected the Render Preview button. I am assuming you didn't do these steps.
More than likely you are using an older build of PD11 which had a graphic driver incompatibility problem causing this rendering problem that shouldn't be happening while you are simply editing your project on the timeline.

Go to the software update page and download the latest patch and install it. That should cure this rendering issue.

Kevin

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dinopet01 [Avatar]
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Being a new user, I'm not sure I understand video clips rendering while on the timeline...I thought you either view a library clip, or you view the movie preview in the preview window (one or the other) and the rendering takes place as soon as you edit the timeline. I understand the green means it has been rendered/finished editing. Am I missing something?

I just bought this PD11 and installed it, but maybe you are right about installing the patch. Let me know if you have any more details of exactly what patch to get, and what steps I should take to render properly. Sorry, I am a new user but willing to figure it out...with some help. Thanks so much! dinopet
James1
Senior Contributor Location: Surrey, B.C., Canada Joined: Jun 10, 2010 16:20 Messages: 1783 Offline
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Hi,
My suggestion would be to go to the Graphic card manufacturers website and download the latest certified drivers (not windows update), then update quicktime player to latest, then the Update to PD11 Ultimate, and instal it. do a cold Boot (turn off system, wait a minute then reboot) this allows all new drivers etc to be registered.
Then see if that solves the problem.
Jim Intel i7-2600@3.4Gz Geforce 560ti-1GB Graphic accelerator, windows 7 Premium 12GB memory

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Cap'n Kevin
Senior Contributor Location: Chebeague Island, Maine Joined: Dec 26, 2008 20:22 Messages: 2011 Offline
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Yes it is a little confusing if you are brand new to using the program.

How things work normally.

1. When you import video clips into the Media Room this is where they are kept prior to using them on the editing timeline. You can play these clips from the Media Room and view them in the Preview Screen.

2. You can drag these clips from the Media Room and place them on video tracks on the timeline. There should be NO RENDERING happening at this point.

If you don't have the latest version Build 3026 or its a version Build older than 2215 and you have updated to the latest graphic driver you will then experience this problem. Then you will see this rendering process start happening when you place your clips on the timeline on the right hand side of the screen near the timeline. THIS IS NOT WHAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING when you are in the editing screen. This is a symptom of a problem.

3. You can tell which version you have by selecting "Power Director" at the top of the open application. It will display the version number you are using. I believe that Build 2215 corrected the problem, but the latest patch 3026 will have all the fixes within it from the past, so you only need to download and install the latest patch.

Link to patches:

http://www.cyberlink.com/support/powerdirector-ultra/patches_en_US.html

4. The only way you should see this rendering is when a user selects to use it. You can select all or a section of a project on the timeline by using the orange triangles located on either side of the Blue Scrubber bar that moves across the timeline during playback. Once a section is highlighted, a NEW button appears on top of the timeline, labeled Render Preview. This button is used to pre render complex parts of a project that don't playback smoothly in the preview window. This can be frustrating if you need to see the proper sequence of your project playback precisely. Render Preview will generate temporary video files that will then be used to smooth out the playback of a complex section. I used it to playback a video wall I made where I used 64 video tracks with HD footage all playing simultaneously. The Render preview button made playback possible.

If this isn't what is happening then we will need to go to another step to identify your problem. Hopefully I didn't misinterpret your helpful screenshot.

Kevin

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dinopet01 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Aug 31, 2013 15:04 Messages: 12 Offline
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I just downloaded the first patch for PD11, and the transitions are working fine. I will do everything you mentioned and give it a go. In fact I might just download all patches.
I'll post again how things are going when done.

Thanks so much for helping me out! Check back if you still have the patience. Much appreciated! dinopet
Cap'n Kevin
Senior Contributor Location: Chebeague Island, Maine Joined: Dec 26, 2008 20:22 Messages: 2011 Offline
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Quote: I just downloaded the first patch for PD11, and the transitions are working fine. I will do everything you mentioned and give it a go. In fact I might just download all patches.
I'll post again how things are going when done.

Thanks so much for helping me out! Check back if you still have the patience. Much appreciated!


Just download the latest patch. Each new patch incorporates previous patches, so the latest should be all that you need.

Edit: did the green line above the timeline still appear? If so you will only need to delete the temporary files that were created and that green line should disappear. This can be done by opening your preferences(gear icon at the top of the application).....then under the General tab you will see where you can manually delete these temp files yourself. They are, by default, deleted every 30 days automatically.

But if things are working normally, you should NOT be seeing the rendering progress bar working while you are editing. This should not be happening. It will ruin your editing experience to say the least.

Good luck!

Kevin

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Cap'n Kevin
Senior Contributor Location: Chebeague Island, Maine Joined: Dec 26, 2008 20:22 Messages: 2011 Offline
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Quote: Hi,
My suggestion would be to go to the Graphic card manufacturers website and download the latest certified drivers (not windows update), then update quicktime player to latest, then the Update to PD11 Ultimate, and instal it. do a cold Boot (turn off system, wait a minute then reboot) this allows all new drivers etc to be registered.
Then see if that solves the problem.
Jim


Hi James,

Updating graphic card drivers is great advice.

But.....

If the user is using an older build(that had the graphic card compatibility problem) of PD10 or PD11 updating graphic card drivers while still using the older build of PD is what causes this rendering problem to rear its head and cause the problem. Installing the latest PD patch OR reverting back to an older graphic card driver that worked is the only solution to cure the uninitiated rendering problem.

You can use older graphic card drivers with the latest patch if you find that meets your needs and you won't have the rendering problem. But updating both PD11 and the graphic card to the latest is probably the most prudent thing to do.

Kevin
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