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NVIDIA 2K and 4K Encoding support for AVCHD?
moisesmcardona [Avatar]
Senior Member Joined: Oct 23, 2012 11:48 Messages: 167 Offline
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Hello,

I just recently got a Lenovo Y510P with Dual NVIDIA GT 750M.
My question is if there can be AVCHD 2K and 4K encoding support in an upcoming release of the product, since it can handle up to 1080p but I also export my productions using the 2K and 4K profiles for YouTube publishing. 2K speeds are good, but exporting to 4K AVC is slow, possibly due to it being 4x 1080 video.

Sicne this laptop has dual graphics, I would like to see more support for profiles to support Hardware Video Encoding. Main Machine: Jetway NF9G-QM77, Intel i7-3610QM, Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060 3GB, 128gb SSD, Windows 10 Pro
Secondary Machine: Lenovo Y510p, Intel i7-4700MQ 2.4Ghz, 2x nVidia GT750M, 500GB SSHD, Windows 10 Education
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James1
Senior Contributor Location: Surrey, B.C., Canada Joined: Jun 10, 2010 16:20 Messages: 1783 Offline
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Hi,
You didn't mention what version you have (if any). I have the GoPro black edition which supports 4K video and Pd11 ultimate supports the files, both import and export. the Only draw back (if you wanna call it that) is the viewing equipment have to support 4K format or else it is just diplayed at a standard Hi def 1920x1080 screen.
Jim Intel i7-2600@3.4Gz Geforce 560ti-1GB Graphic accelerator, windows 7 Premium 12GB memory

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moisesmcardona [Avatar]
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Hi,

I currently have PowerDirector 11 3026.

I mainly do slideshows from photos I take at events and travels from my Canon Rebel T2i. I don't yet have a 4K video camera. I can edit the project fine, but what I meant in the post was that when I want to produce the file, AVCHD 2K and 4K profiles does not have Hardware Video Encoding support, but it is available for the 1080 profiles and below. I would like 2K and 4K Hardware Encoding profiles to be available in a future release since 4K rendering with the CPU is far slower than 2K rendering. I don't have a 4K equipment, but I export them in 4K due to YouTube supporting resolutions above 1080. Main Machine: Jetway NF9G-QM77, Intel i7-3610QM, Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060 3GB, 128gb SSD, Windows 10 Pro
Secondary Machine: Lenovo Y510p, Intel i7-4700MQ 2.4Ghz, 2x nVidia GT750M, 500GB SSHD, Windows 10 Education
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James1
Senior Contributor Location: Surrey, B.C., Canada Joined: Jun 10, 2010 16:20 Messages: 1783 Offline
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Hi,
Well I do have a 4k video Camera and what I stated was that PowerDirector 11 already has the capability to output to 4K formats. so you don't have to wait for a later release....I tried to post a 4K short to the forum but the submit just kept saving and saving...
I get the option in the Produce menu to select from a variety of 4K bitrates and aspect ratios.
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moisesmcardona [Avatar]
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I CAN EXPORT to 4K, but neither 2K or 4K has HARDWARE VIDEO ENCODING. I can export using the CPU on both profiles but not using the GPU, or the Multi-GPU, since the laptop has 2 NVIDIA GT750M. Main Machine: Jetway NF9G-QM77, Intel i7-3610QM, Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060 3GB, 128gb SSD, Windows 10 Pro
Secondary Machine: Lenovo Y510p, Intel i7-4700MQ 2.4Ghz, 2x nVidia GT750M, 500GB SSHD, Windows 10 Education
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James Dotson
Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline
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I could be wrong, but I believe hardware encoding depends on the graphics card, not PowerDirector. PD is responsible for SVRT, however. __________________________________
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borgus1 [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Feb 27, 2013 00:33 Messages: 1318 Offline
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Quote: I could be wrong, but I believe hardware encoding depends on the graphics card, not PowerDirector. PD is responsible for SVRT, however.


You are not wrong...

"Enable hardware decoding: if your computer supports NVIDIA CUDA/AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing/Intel Core Processor Family technology, select this option to use hardware acceleration to decode the video during the editing process and when producing video."
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Hi moisesmcardona -

On my two PCs, both with NVIDIA GPUs, hardware encoding isn't available for any 2K or 4K profile in production.

Your Lenovo Y510P - i7 4700MQ - Dual GT 75M would (in theory) perform somewhere between the render times below.

Using a 4K sample clip - 3840x2160 @ 21.7MBps (2:54 duration)... no hardware video encoding.



Cheers - Tony

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moisesmcardona [Avatar]
Senior Member Joined: Oct 23, 2012 11:48 Messages: 167 Offline
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Thanks for the information.

I was reading this on Wikipedia, which is supposed to be available in the 600 series and newer which states the following:

NVENC
NVENC is Nvidia's power efficient fixed-function encode that is able to take codecs, decode, preprocess, and encode H.264-based content. NVENC specification input formats are limited to H.264 output. But still, NVENC, through its limited format, can support up to 4096x4096 encode.
Like Intel’s Quick Sync, NVENC is currently exposed through a proprietary API, though Nvidia does have plans to provide NVENC usage through CUDA.

It seems that NVENC is separated from CUDA, but still it says it can encode up to 4096x4096, so hopefully Cyberlink can implement NVENC and give us the option to either use the standard Hardware Video Encoder or use the newer NVENC.

My understanding is that Cyberlink uses either OpenCL or CUDA, but there is no support for NVENC. Am I correct? Main Machine: Jetway NF9G-QM77, Intel i7-3610QM, Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060 3GB, 128gb SSD, Windows 10 Pro
Secondary Machine: Lenovo Y510p, Intel i7-4700MQ 2.4Ghz, 2x nVidia GT750M, 500GB SSHD, Windows 10 Education
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GGRussell [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Jan 08, 2012 11:38 Messages: 709 Offline
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Hardware encoding on my ATI HD5550 isn't available either. I think we can safely say that it isn't supported at all. Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
Gary Russell -- TN USA
moisesmcardona [Avatar]
Senior Member Joined: Oct 23, 2012 11:48 Messages: 167 Offline
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I hope this gets supported. I mean, a single NVIDIA GT650M can be slower than the CPU, but PowerDirector states it can use Multi-GPU configuations, and since the laptop features 1 internal and 1 external GT650M cards, PowerDirector could use both GPUs at the same time of rendering the same way it renders using multi-core processors. Main Machine: Jetway NF9G-QM77, Intel i7-3610QM, Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060 3GB, 128gb SSD, Windows 10 Pro
Secondary Machine: Lenovo Y510p, Intel i7-4700MQ 2.4Ghz, 2x nVidia GT750M, 500GB SSHD, Windows 10 Education
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