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mdutcher [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 30, 2013 09:05 Messages: 12 Offline
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Hello there,

I think my pc hates me...
Everything I create a AVC H.264 or MPEG-4 it gives me an error at 52% which says: "Make sure you have the latest version of your screencard and the latest version of Quicktime and Windows media player."
I'm very sure(cause I have been checking it all day) that I have the latest version of all three.
This is my videocard: ATI Radeon HD 5450

Thanks for helping already,
mdutcher

P.S. The rest of the posts are from a different problem, I still need help with this issue

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BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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Welcome to the volunteer forum!
There are so many different AVI formats, where did the original video come from?
What is the resolution?
Can you attach a 5-10 second unedited/untouched clip from the source?
What do you want to do with your exported files, go on DVD? USB? Web?
In the future, a better title for your question would be helpful, that way you will get the attention of people who may have an answer, or more questions!
So, give us a little more info, and we'll see if we can assist our newest member, thanks for showing up, you picked a great program.
Oh...and it's "noob"!

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HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT
mdutcher [Avatar]
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The orignal was also a type of AVI of the Divx player..Like I said I'm a noob(I got it right this time ).
about the clip, the original file is a screen recorded one, so the AVI format doesn't work with the director.
That's something I solve by using a convertor, I could send you that, but I'm not sure if that's what you want.
I'm exporting to youtube, so that answers that.

Thanks for all the helpfull information already

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BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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What program are you using to capture the screen? HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT
mdutcher [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 30, 2013 09:05 Messages: 12 Offline
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I'm using the AVSscreencapture, although that might be temporary since Fraps is better....i think
Dafydd B [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 26, 2006 08:20 Messages: 11973 Offline
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Hi mdutcher ,
I have used many video screen capture programs over the years and many have "one" constant problem - they capture only to an avi format using a propietory codec or to a exclusive file extension only viewable in their own player/editor.

The resulting captured file uses a massive amount of bitrate and creates an overly large file size. Due to the use of propietory codec's the file can not be shared between computers and is too big for long term storage , useless except for immediate use.

A video screen capture program should have multiple choice extension/codec, bitrate and frame rate selection.

Importation of video screen capture into PDR11/W8 should not be a problem if you use a newer version of a screen capture program as the codecs are more likely to be 64bit compatible.

The DivX codec used in the video screen captured is reliant on the end user/you having the codec installed. Go look up DivX and install the free program - you should then be able to import the video into PDR11. For more information on your video please attach the full properties details extracted using MediaInfo: http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en

Just an opinion.

Dafydd
jmone
Senior Contributor Location: Australia Joined: Nov 26, 2010 00:05 Messages: 706 Offline
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Hi mdutcher, Some background that may help. AVI is actually what they call a "Container" that can store different Video and Audio formats. You capture prog was probably using XVID for the Video which is a highly compressed format that is then stored in an AVI container. Both XVID and the AVI container are older formats that are fading from use. While PD supports the AVI container the video format supported in this container typically DV (the original Digital Camcorder format that is high quality but inefficient so it is large as it runs at 25mps).

I'd suggest that if you are looking at outputting video from PD you look at more modern Containers (like MKV, MPEG4 or the H.264AVC) that all use the far more efficient AVC/264 video format and will produce a file the quarter of the size for the same quality as DV. The other option if the MPEG-2 but this is less efficient so it's file size will be bigger then than the AVC options but is still smaller than DV.

Hope that helps
Nathan

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Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG
mdutcher [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 30, 2013 09:05 Messages: 12 Offline
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Ok, I have more info now. It should be in the first post aswell.

I really like the information you all gave me.
If any of you have some more advice on how to make my videos the best quality possible.

Thanks already,

mdutcher
jmone
Senior Contributor Location: Australia Joined: Nov 26, 2010 00:05 Messages: 706 Offline
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I think you are going to have to upload / provide a link to a short clip for us to have a look at as the Huffman video codec is a very high bitrate format (though old http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huffyuv) and so your AVI files should be huge ... which is what the screen shot of the Media Info from you clip shows - eg 11GB for 16min is almost 0.7GB per Minute which it 20 times higher than the "30 minutes per GB" as per you OP. PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG
mdutcher [Avatar]
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I will try to find a way to cut the video without needing to edit it...Did I mention I was a noob..
We will see how I'm going to do this

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Xerox [Avatar]
Contributor Location: California, USA Joined: Aug 09, 2009 01:36 Messages: 446 Offline
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I'm not watching a video that I know was recorded at only 15 frames per second. Gateway DX4380, AMD A8-5500 Quad Core 3.2GHz with ATI Radeon HD 7560D; 16GB RAM; 1 TB SATA 7200 RPM; Windows 8 Pro 64-bit; PDR11, PDVD12.
mdutcher [Avatar]
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Well, I can try to fix that later, I think it might be an issue with the recorder wince my game is running at 40 when the recording is up, but this is what I did for now.
I re-recorded a small video of 9 seconds so I will be making a folder with the video and a screenshot.
This will show the difference, I hope this helps, so that you can help me.
It's uploaded to mediafire here:http://www.mediafire.com/?9qc90rn361tqcs8
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Online
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Hi mdutcher -

Unfortunately, with that screen capture software, you cannot set the frame rate for recording. It's 15fps or nothing. Like Xerox, that would be enough to convince me not to use it.

The video bitrate is determined by screen activity... e.g. a capture of regular activity like using email software or browsing these pages gave a VBR of 28MBps. Capturing a video playback gave 165MBps.

You initially stated the issue was that the file size of the produced video was much greater than the original recording. I can verify that if you produce to Windows AVI. Your Help.AVI is 109MB with a VBR of 94.8MBps. The produced file (here) is 216MB with a VBR of 190MBps! I would also agree that that image quality is not as good as the original recording,

You didn't provide the details of which exact produce options you selected. I have no idea how you'd be able to produce an AVI out of PD11 that would have similar properties (especially BR) to your recorded clip.

Anyway - I'd seriously consider using screen capture software that allows you to control the recording parameters. That way you'll get better control over the final output.

Cheers - Tony

P.S. Last time I wasted my (free) time trying to advise a member about changing settings in screen capture software so it would work better in PowerDirector , my post was removed & the thread locked. Many members, clearly, use a variety of screen capture software prior to editing in PD. The settings used can be the difference between success & problems.
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mdutcher [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 30, 2013 09:05 Messages: 12 Offline
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Well, thanks for the help.
Guess I will be looking for a new screen recorder.
The setting I used for the production of the first video was just clicking on produce AVI and hopeing.
I did that because of the last program I used. With the advice the rest of the people gave me I will probably use these:
-Custom AVC H.264
--720p
--60 or 50 fps
--somewhere between 6000 and 13000 on bitrate
--And more high quality versus slow processing time

Some advice on these things would be all I need now.
Thanks again everyone who has already replied and I hope my problems will be over soon,

mdutcher
BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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mdutcher, I've pm'd you. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT
mdutcher [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 30, 2013 09:05 Messages: 12 Offline
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Well, there's a new problem now.
I think my pc hates me...
Everything I create a AVC H.264 or MPEG-4 it gives me an error at 52% which says: "Make sure you have the latest version of your screencard and the latest version of Quicktime and Windows media player."
I'm very sure(cause I have been checking it all day) that I have the latest version of all three.
This is my videocard: ATI Radeon HD 5450

Can someone help me?

-mdutcher
Dafydd B [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 26, 2006 08:20 Messages: 11973 Offline
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Quote: Well, there's a new problem now.
I think my pc hates me...
Everything I create a AVC H.264 or MPEG-4 it gives me an error at 52% which says: "Make sure you have the latest version of your screencard and the latest version of Quicktime and Windows media player."
I'm very sure(cause I have been checking it all day) that I have the latest version of all three.
This is my videocard: ATI Radeon HD 5450

Can someone help me?

-mdutcher

Hi mdutcher
Please post as a new topic.
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