3D video files display trouble

david445

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Apr 28, 2013 13:40

I'm testing the display of 3D video files generated from PD and played from USB stick to my TV Samsung UE46D7000.

I really can't find a rule how this is working:

MVC 1080 24p 25Mbps DON'T work
MVC 720 25p 10Mbps DON'T work
MVC 576 25p 6Mbps DON'T work
SBS 1080 variable frame rate 15Mb tot DON'T work
SBS 720 variable frame rate 6Mbps (12Mbps total) DON'T work
SBS 576 50i 6Mbps (12Mbps total) WORK

Info from MediaInfo, all files in AVC .m2ts container.

It's a USB bandwidth problem? Need I to use lower bitrate? Something else?

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James1

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Apr 28, 2013 16:03

Hi,
Not sure on your TV model, but on my LG 55" Tv usb drives aren't recognized as DVD movie sources. I have to go into the TV menu system and choose the USB as input then navigate to the folder containing the video files and 'go from there' depending on TV naviagtion
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Carl312

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Apr 28, 2013 16:12

Quote: I'm testing the display of 3D video files generated from PD and played from USB stick to my TV Samsung UE46D7000.

I really can't find a rule how this is working:

MVC 1080 24p 25Mbps DON'T work
MVC 720 25p 10Mbps DON'T work
MVC 576 25p 6Mbps DON'T work
SBS 1080 variable frame rate 15Mb tot DON'T work
SBS 720 variable frame rate 6Mbps (12Mbps total) DON'T work
SBS 576 50i 6Mbps (12Mbps total) WORK

Info from MediaInfo, all files in AVC .m2ts container.

It's a USB bandwidth problem? Need I to use lower bitrate? Something else?

You should read your Samsung UE46D7000 User Manual to see what the TV set will accept from a USB stick.

The one you saying works is a SD video not HD.
There is a deal made with the Movie studios on the use of an analog input to a TV set.

http://news.consumerreports.org/electronics/2011/02/goodbye-hd-component-video-hello-analog-sunset.html

I do not know if that has anything to do with what is happening. I do know that BluRay disk players do not have a component output anymore. Only HDMI (HD) or Composite video (SD). Component was HD and Analog RGB.

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david445

Member Joined: Oct 30, 2012 05:28 Messages: 129 Offline

Apr 28, 2013 16:48

Quote: Hi,
Not sure on your TV model, but on my LG 55" Tv usb drives aren't recognized as DVD movie sources. I have to go into the TV menu system and choose the USB as input then navigate to the folder containing the video files and 'go from there' depending on TV naviagtion
JIm

Also on mine need to change source to USB and navigate files.

Problem is when I try to play them some are not recognized as format (SBS with high horizontal resolution), or play the first few second and then stops (all the progressive formats).

david445

Member Joined: Oct 30, 2012 05:28 Messages: 129 Offline

Apr 28, 2013 16:58

Quote:
You should read your Samsung UE46D7000 User Manual to see what the TV set will accept from a USB stick.

The one you saying works is a SD video not HD.
There is a deal made with the Movie studios on the use of an analog input to a TV set.

http://news.consumerreports.org/electronics/2011/02/goodbye-hd-component-video-hello-analog-sunset.html

I do not know if that has anything to do with what is happening. I do know that BluRay disk players do not have a component output anymore. Only HDMI (HD) or Composite video (SD). Component was HD and Analog RGB.

The manual give not so many details, appear that using USB source only 720p and 1080p/i formats are supported, and that it's the contrary if my experience!

Carl312

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Apr 28, 2013 20:16

Quote:

Quote:
You should read your Samsung UE46D7000 User Manual to see what the TV set will accept from a USB stick.

The one you saying works is a SD video not HD.
There is a deal made with the Movie studios on the use of an analog input to a TV set.

http://news.consumerreports.org/electronics/2011/02/goodbye-hd-component-video-hello-analog-sunset.html

I do not know if that has anything to do with what is happening. I do know that BluRay disk players do not have a component output anymore. Only HDMI (HD) or Composite video (SD). Component was HD and Analog RGB.

The manual give not so many details, appear that using USB source only 720p and 1080p/i formats are supported, and that it's the contrary if my experience!

Does the manual say anything about what file formats the TV supports via USB?

You can try producing a 720P video as WMV, AVC H.264 and MP4 formats to see which one will play on the TV.

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david445

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Apr 29, 2013 11:30

Quote:
Does the manual say anything about what file formats the TV supports via USB?

You can try producing a 720P video as WMV, AVC H.264 and MP4 formats to see which one will play on the TV.

Not really, the manual state only that the TV can play the standard video format such as mkv, avi, mp4 etc, but nothing specific about USB.
Some forums state that the tv can play from usb only SBS...I'm wondering why.

Need I to do all the cross video container/3D format tests?

Btw: it's possible using PD10 to encode .mkv videos? Or only PD11 can do that?

Carl312

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Apr 29, 2013 15:57

Quote: Not really, the manual state only that the TV can play the standard video format such as mkv, avi, mp4 etc, but nothing specific about USB.

Well, there is your answer, it is those formats that the TV will play, it does not matter if the Video is on a USB stick.
If it will play MKV, that is the format you should try on the USB sitck.

PD 11 can produce that format in 3D HD.
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david445

Member Joined: Oct 30, 2012 05:28 Messages: 129 Offline

Apr 29, 2013 16:53

Mmm in theory the TV will reproduce AVCHD files, but in practice will not reproduce MVC 3D one.

I need to proceed by trial and error I think.

Do you know any converter between the various 3D formats?

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