PD, Hybrid Drives and NAS

BarryTheCrab

Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline

Solved by

Nov 30, 2012 20:45

Folks,
I was thinking of a new drive for my LG-NAS N2B1 (LAN). Currently it has a 2TB 63mb 7,200 rpm, with a slot for another drive.
Might I find performance increases in my DV7t if...
1. I replace my on-board laptop drive with a hybrid SSD/7,200rpm, which I've just learned about!?
and/or
2. Get an SSD for the 2nd slot of my NAS where I would keep my current ongoing project media.
3. Are there normally any problems with a mismatch of the NAS drives?

If no real performance increase is expected, I'll opt for just a new plain 7,200 rpm SATA drive to fill the slot.

NOTE: This is not exactly Cyberlink's bag, so if I get locked or removed, I can certainly live with that, but just please take note of my questions, and feel free to PM me with your opinions.
A new $creamin'-eagle desktop i$ not for me right now, but I can shwing a new drive or 2!

Thank you, BTC(MVP)
{edited twice to increase confusion}

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at Dec 01. 2012 07:32

HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT

djmorgan

Senior Member Location: Gold Coast, Queensland, Oz. Joined: Mar 09, 2007 07:07 Messages: 233 Offline

Dec 01, 2012 00:07

The advantage of NAS is as a backup off site or away from main box, further protection is if you have two drives you can operate raid which gives further protection in the event of one HDD failure.

In order to achieve this both HDD need to be same size or you will simple have an accumulative system ie. 500Gb + 1Tb = 1.5Tb

Raid 1Tb + 1Tb = 1Tb but data mirrored over 2 drives.

More modern Nas's offer connectivity between all your devices, server configuration and access over the web.

As to your other question too difficult to speculate as the speed of any device will be limited by other things such as motherboard, CPU etc

David Windows 7 X64 SP1
ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA1366 X58
Intel core I7 950 3.80 GHZ CPU
12Gb Corsair TR3X3G1600C8D Tri channel
Corsair H70 Water cooling
Corsair HX1000W PSU
nVidia GTX 980
Intel 240Gb SSD 520 Series
2 x Seagate 1 Tb

BarryTheCrab

Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline

Dec 01, 2012 07:40

I think the bottleneck is the LAN (ethernet line, same thing?), but there is an e-sata hookup in the back of the NAS, I'll try that. I have seen here that getting my editing media off the C drive would in itself be helpful to performance, that is my end-game. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT

stevek

Senior Contributor Location: Houston, Texas USA Joined: Jan 25, 2011 12:18 Messages: 4663 Offline

Dec 01, 2012 08:01

Quote: I think the bottleneck is the LAN (ethernet line, same thing?), but there is an e-sata hookup in the back of the NAS, I'll try that. I have seen here that getting my editing media off the C drive would in itself be helpful to performance, that is my end-game.

Where did you hear that?

If your system drive has lots of room and or you have a second drive in your computer (not NAS), that should be as fast as you can get. Some people store their resources on an external drive but make a production folder with all the images, videos, and music on their system drive or another internal drive for best performance.

If the system drive is close to full or if it is badly defragged, then you may have issues with it. Sometimes these programs will give out of sync. problems. There are programs that optimize the disc space by moving entries around - a super defrag. Have you tried that?

The above is my humble (and logical) opinion only. NOW if you are looking to give yourself an early Holiday present, buy what you want and can afford. .
.
BoilerPlate: To posters who ask for help -- it is nice to thank the volunteers who try to answer your questions !
Anything I post unless stated with a reference is my personal opinion.

BarryTheCrab

Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline

Dec 01, 2012 08:42

I maintain my machines often, but I have certainly seen a mention here that having the OS on the same drive as your media is not optimal, but I am getting the impression I have probably hit the wall for performance without laying out serious cash and finding a willing beneficiary of my i7 laptop.
I manage to do OK with what I have, but I can dream, can't I? HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT

moisesmcardona

Senior Member Joined: Oct 23, 2012 11:48 Messages: 167 Offline

Dec 01, 2012 10:19

I agree with not having the media files on dirve C:\. What would happen is that the drive would be reading System Files + Cyberlink software files + media files which would decrase performance, mainly if the videos are HD, but if you have 2 or more internal drives, you should move the files to your second drive assuming this will be the media drive. That's how I do it on my laptop (1 SSD for system, 2 HDD for media) and it increases the editing performance. Main Machine: Jetway NF9G-QM77, Intel i7-3610QM, Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060 3GB, 128gb SSD, Windows 10 Pro
Secondary Machine: Lenovo Y510p, Intel i7-4700MQ 2.4Ghz, 2x nVidia GT750M, 500GB SSHD, Windows 10 Education
visit http://moisescardona.video

jerrys

Senior Contributor Location: New Britain, CT, USA (between New York and Boston) Joined: Feb 10, 2010 21:36 Messages: 1038 Offline

Dec 01, 2012 21:07

If you have enough memory, and keep your disk reasonably well defragmented, putting things on separate drives should not have a big effect. Bear in mind that some drives are a lot faster than others. Specs to look for are rotation speed (higher the better), onboard cache (bigger the better), seek time (lower the better), and transfer rate (faster the better).

The reason memory is key is that the system tries to keep things in memory as much as possible. It will only use the physical disk when it needs something that isn't in memory, or when it writes something that has to go to the disk drive.

There are disk policy settings that allow you to control the way Windows handles writing to the disk. There's a tradeoff between speed and risk that is explained in Windows help. Jerry Schwartz