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rodg777 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Sep 26, 2012 14:28 Messages: 5 Offline
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When I try to Create Disc, Power Director does not seem to compress when I select h.264.
In fact it increases the size of the file. For instance if I have a file that is 8gb and I select h.264 compression, PD in the Disc status on the lower left corner it shows it at 13bg.
Has anyone noticed this? I have all the patches installed.
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Quote: When I try to Create Disc, Power Director does not seem to compress when I select h.264.
In fact it increases the size of the file. For instance if I have a file that is 8gb and I select h.264 compression, PD in the Disc status on the lower left corner it shows it at 13bg.
Has anyone noticed this? I have all the patches installed.

Are you sure that you are choosing H.264 and not MPEG2 in the 2D preferences of the Create Disk module.



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Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

rodg777 [Avatar]
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Yes I chose h.264, HD 1280x720/60p and it shows 7797mb and my file is actually 4.64gb. It does it m=with any file I choose. I have tried .mov, .mpg and same problem.
Cap'n Kevin
Senior Contributor Location: Chebeague Island, Maine Joined: Dec 26, 2008 20:22 Messages: 2011 Offline
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Quote: Yes I chose h.264, HD 1280x720/60p and it shows 7797mb and my file is actually 4.64gb. It does it m=with any file I choose. I have tried .mov, .mpg and same problem.


An example of why it would increase in file size when creating a Blu-Ray disc would be this:

If I place a mpg-2 720x480 resolution video clip with a 8Mbps bitrate that is 2.2 GB in size on the timeline and then I select Create Disc and then Select Blu-Ray Disc, then selecting H.264 with a profile of 1280x720 resolution, you are effectively increasing the file size because of the increased resolution and bitrate which results in a larger file size on a Blu-Ray Disc. On my system the file size of the 1280x720 H.264 is estimated at about 5 GB(more than double the original as expected). Each frame of the final video has been increased from the original mpg-2 720x480 to the Blu-Ray resolution of 1280x720. Also the bitrate has been increased from 8Mbps(original) to 15.6Mbps(Blu-Ray) which also significantly increases the final file size.

This may not be what is happening for you as your original file may be quite different. If you are starting with a 1280x720 15.6Mbps file and creating a 1280x720 15.6Mbps file and the file size Doubled, then something else is going wrong and I don't know what that might be. It would help to know what type of video file you are starting with. What is the video resolution and what is the bitrate? These factors all are in play with the final file size when creating a Blu-Ray Disc. It really isn't compressing the original file, it is expanding it in my example. Make sense?

Footnote:
It has been reported on many occasions that the Estimated resulting file size if very often miscalculated, and this may be what is happening in your case. Hard to say without more information.

I should also add that iny example I was taking Standard definition footage and making it playable on a Blu-Ray disc. Converting this file doesn't really make it better in quality, it only makes the video bigger. It is watchable though. I have taken older Hi-8 video and placed them on Blu-ray Discs and they aren't too bad. You can improve the appearance and quality during the editing phase by applying enhancements. They work pretty well by sharpening and adding more contrast to the original video.

Just thought I would offer one example where the final file size can be significantly greater than the original when creating a Blu-Ray Disc.
Kevin

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I understand what you are saying. The original file is 1280x720 and even when I choose that resolution for the output it does the same.
I am comparing this to ULEAD DVD Movie Factory 7 which does not do this and when I choose h.264 it reduces the overall space on the disc significantly.
The only reason I am trying Cyberlink is that on one file that is 7.5gb it took 26 hrs to render and it still had 2% to go using ULEAD.
My Issue in this case may be the file. I took 88 small clips and combined them into one file. I am going to try and redo it and see if that helps. But ULEAD DVD MF 7 did not behave as did Power Director.
Mind you I have a Core i7 with 12gb RAM and (3) 30gb SSD drives in raid0 and it still took 26hrs. Does not make sense.
Cap'n Kevin
Senior Contributor Location: Chebeague Island, Maine Joined: Dec 26, 2008 20:22 Messages: 2011 Offline
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Quote: I understand what you are saying. The original file is 1280x720 and even when I choose that resolution for the output it does the same.
I am comparing this to ULEAD DVD Movie Factory 7 which does not do this and when I choose h.264 it reduces the overall space on the disc significantly.
The only reason I am trying Cyberlink is that on one file that is 7.5gb it took 26 hrs to render and it still had 2% to go using ULEAD.
My Issue in this case may be the file. I took 88 small clips and combined them into one file. I am going to try and redo it and see if that helps. But ULEAD DVD MF 7 did not behave as did Power Director.
Mind you I have a Core i7 with 12gb RAM and (3) 30gb SSD drives in raid0 and it still took 26hrs. Does not make sense.


I hear you it doesn't make sense. I was thinking you might be using original footage that was similar to the output. But I thought an example might help. It didn't really. Sorry about that!

26 hours to render seems way out of bounds for your system. Although I can only guess that you graphic card has some power similar to your CPU and RAM specs.

How can we help? Not really sure.

I am sure other members want to see a DxDiag file of your system. Can you post one?

A screen shot of the entire editing screen, including the whole project length in the timeline.

Are all the video clips the same type? Or a mix? How did they originate? A camera? Downloaded?

This sounds like an interesting problem to solve. Give us some details of your PC and the project and people here can sink their teeth into it to give you a better idea of how to proceed.

From the sounds of it, your project will fit on a single layer BluRay. You could always uncheck the burn to disc option and simply burn to a folder and see what the final folder size is to see if the estimate is actually accurate.

I am certainly not an expert! But I really enjoy tackling problems and working them through. Troubleshooting the problem successfully takes time and usually lots of input from many experienced people who simply won't give up!

Wait to hear back from you.

Kevin
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rodg777 [Avatar]
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Not sure where to get the dxdiag file from. For now I will try and redo the 88 files into one . Maybe something happened to it.
I am trying to do videos using different resolution (from different cameras). Basically I am trying to fit as many of my home videos into one disc. With Bluray I fit fit alot. Even when I try and render the file alone to a folder it crashes. It must be the file.
I like Ulead DVD MF 7 because it gives you many options. So I would like to continue using it. It must be the file---I hope!
Thanks.
Cap'n Kevin
Senior Contributor Location: Chebeague Island, Maine Joined: Dec 26, 2008 20:22 Messages: 2011 Offline
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Here is link that you will find the instructions for creating a DxDiag that you should post for others to look at.
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/24771.page

Lets get your problem figured out!!

You may be right about one or several of the video files causing the production phase to choke! It has happened to me as well. It is possible to see where it chokes by producing it to a file in the produce section. Make sure you have checked "preview while it is producing" something like that. You might be able to see in the preview window during production where it is hanging and then you can experient by removing the suspect video clip. See what I mean? Watch where it stops and it might give you some clues. Sometimes just removing the bad clip and then reinserting it or changing is duration by shortening or lengthening it on the editing timeline is all it takes to correct the problem.

Kevin

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davos [Avatar]
Newbie Location: Scotland Joined: Sep 27, 2011 03:09 Messages: 46 Offline
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Saw your PC specs...could it be the old "100GB should be free on your C drive to produce HD video"?
Dave
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Newbie Joined: Sep 26, 2012 14:28 Messages: 5 Offline
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NAH! Forgot to mention those (3) SSD Drives are just for W7 Boot. I have a 1TB for Program Files with plenty of room to spare and another 1TB for File Storage. I use the Program File HDD for Producing and rendering.
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