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Begin Rotation of Image at Specific Key Frame
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I have an image file that I want to fly into the screen(Key Frame 1 to Key Frame 2)
Then pause for a second (Key Frame 2 to Key Frame 3)
Then zoom out and rotate quickly(Key Frame 3 to Key Frame 4).

Sounds easy enough. Except when I click Rotation (while positioned at Key Frame 4) and specify a number it applies it through the entire life of the image. Key Frame 1 to Key Frame 4 instead of just from Key Frame 3 to Key Frame 4.

What I end up having to do is let it apply the rotation to the entire life of the image, then go back to Key Frame 2 and "Duplicate Previous Key Frame" and then reposition the image where it should be. Then I go to Key Frame 3 and "Duplicate Previous Key Frame". Once that is done the image does exactly what I want.

My question is...Doesn't that seem a little complicated? Am I missing something or is that the only way to accomplish what I want?

Thanks for any input!
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Maybe this tutorial will help explain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFXaP-EhQZs

To pause motion using key frames you must duplicate the previous key frame to make the motion stay still.

Good tutorial on Key frame basics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gPt7y6ipo0

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I watched both videos and neither dealt with my issue. I understand how to make images move and make them pause and how to set key frames. My issue is how do I get the Rotation Settings to ONLY affect between two key frames instead of all of them? I make sure to only adjust the Rotation Settings at the last key frame but it will always make it rotate the entire life of the image.
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Maybe ynotfish (Tony) will see this post and give you a better answer.

Tony is very good with keyframes, if anybody would know, it would be him.

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MARK_W [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jan 06, 2012 08:50 Messages: 44 Offline
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Hi HighRise955

I confirm I have found the same, setting the rotation in the PIP screen applies it to all the keyframes.
But what I have found is, if you use the PIP screen to set up the direction of your object first, then goto the Keyframes settings editing screen, you can then use the rotation setting as you need by keyframe.
Seems you have to use two different editing screens to achieve the desired result.

Mark


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ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Mark -

If I was a star fairy, I'd give you 5. You'll just have to accept my comment that your solution is perfect. The imperfection is that there are two modules in PD that control the same/similar things. Anyway - great answer to the question.

Carl -

Thank you for your generous remark. It's true that I've learned a lot about getting keyframes under control. It's equally true that I am indebted to my friend & brother, Cranston, for sharing amazing depth of knowledge & skill with me. It's he who deserves the credit, for it's he who has been my mentor.

HighRise -

To honour Mark's response, here's a screen capture that I think explains what he's saying... attached. It's low res. If you'd rather see it in HD, I'll pop it on YouTube for you.

Cheers - Tony
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Tony & Mark,

Thanks both for your input. Very much appreciated!

Tony,

Do you think you can put the clip on Youtube in HD. For some reason I can't seem to duplicate your solution so I figure I must be missing a step. Agan, very much appreciated.

HighRise
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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HighRise -

Here you go... on YouTube you can view in in 720p. This toot is dedicated to MARK_W (see above)



Cheers - Tony
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Fenman
Senior Contributor Location: Cambridge, UK Joined: Nov 24, 2011 04:44 Messages: 731 Offline
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I have been struggling trying to use keyframe-controlled rotation in my PD9 project and have just about given up in despair. Basically I have some clips where I've inadvertently tilted the camera during the shot so I want to generate a progressive rotation to compensate. I've read through the comments above and viewed Tony's video but I can't seem to reproduce this and wonder if it's using features that are not included in PD9. If it needs an upgrade to a later version of Power Director that won't happen as I didn't like the way Cyberlink dealt with the NVidia rendering issue and vowed never to deal with them again.

The editor I used before Power Director had a very simple, elegant and intuitive way of working with keyframes and I really can't understand why Cyberlink have made it so clunky and difficult to use. For example if I go into PIP designer and try to use the frame-by-frame arrows to position the cursor I can't then access any of the other buttons - they're all greyed out - until I click the Stop button but the cursor then returns to the start of the clip so it's impossible to get frame-accurate keyframe positions. Even after I have inserted the required keyframes I can't find how to use Mark's method of setting different rotations on each one.

The PD9 User Guide is very lacking in information on the use of keyframes. I've looked at all the pages referred to the word 'keyframe' in its index and the only, very brief, description is in the PIP designer motion control. Does anyone know of a more complete description of what can be done with keyframes and how related to PD9 anywhere?

Edit: Having had yet another attempt it looks as if rotation is not one of the attributes that it is possible to keyframe in this version of Power Director. Too bad.

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