Hi George,
For the issue you have raised to be brought to CyberLink's attention it will need to be replicated by editors or similar reports made.

Please provide the following:
1. A 5 second sample clip for use in a project (members can then replicate it etc to form a base for a rendered project)
2. A step-by-step action list of all that you selected and did - plus images to show what you did so members can replicate the results you've noticed. This is important.
3. Please provide diagnostic files and additional information.
Part A,B,E&F in the guides.
4. Please provide screenshots of your project in the edit Workspace.
5. Please make sure you give an accurate list of actions and selections.

Members may or may not give assistance or attempt to replicate an issue due to a number of things including poor presentation. To obtain CyberLink online support please visit: http://www.cyberlink.com/prog/support/cs/index.do

I look forward to reading your write up.

Dafydd

It's straight forward.
1. Load original.m2ts into project
2. Place it in video track 1
3. Select power tools-> Crop video ang do some cropping.
4. Add a title room effect on T track
5. Produce youw work for MPEG-2, DVD HQ (or DVD SP, DVD LP or AVI)
6. The Produced video is Flickering wildly (is usless)

Win 7 Profesional 64, core i3 with internal GPU, 16GB RAM. No Hardware acceleration, encoding or decoding.
Project on PAL 16:9.
Attachments on my original post above.

Thank you Γιώργος Κοπελιάδης

Hi George,
Please attach data to your latest post and not the earlier one - makes a mess of the thread!

Thank you for the data so far.

As per earlier request:

3. Please provide diagnostic files and additional information.
Part A,B,E&F in the guides.
4. Please provide screenshots of your project in the edit Workspace.

Thanks

Dafydd

E&D are not applicable. Instead I'v attached the problematic produced mpeg-2 file and the pds file in my post above. Γιώργος Κοπελιάδης

And the last file Γιώργος Κοπελιάδης

George

I d/l'ed your original m2ts file and playback is normal. The "produce" file you included clearly shows the flickering issue. So I took your original m2ts file and cropped it. Added a title effect and produced it as Mpeg2 DVD High quality. The produced file was excellent on my end with no flickering at all. I've attached for your review.

I suspect the on board graphics card of your PC is the issue but others more knowledgeable in hardware can guide you there.

Quote: George
I d/l'ed your original m2ts file and playback is normal. The "produce" file you included clearly shows the flickering issue. So I took your original m2ts file and cropped it. Added a title effect and produced it as Mpeg2 DVD High quality. The produced file was excellent on my end with no flickering at all. I've attached for your review.
I suspect the on board graphics card of your PC is the issue but others more knowledgeable in hardware can guide you there.

Thanks
Your file plays exellent here too.
I've tested it in 5 diferent PCs with all kind of Graphic cards
Only common in them the win7 64 Greek Version
Have to try on English version.
Do you have win7 64? Γιώργος Κοπελιάδης

Win 7 64 using PD10 64 bit version.

Being in the States, PD had to convert your file from PAL to NTSC. Not sure if this made a difference or not.

Quote: Win 7 64 using PD10 64 bit version.

Being in the States, PD had to convert your file from PAL to NTSC. Not sure if this made a difference or not.

Convert the original.m2ts or produced an NTSC produced.mpg?

I tried the later ...
Producing an NTSC file is A-OK here too!!!! It makes a difference after all
But I have to output in PAL Γιώργος Κοπελιάδης

George, Wnuk & anyone else who cares -

Again, PD manages to turn up completely differing results on different systems...

George - replicated your steps with original.m2ts then produced to MPEG-2 DVD HQ, with the following results
- crop only: no flickering
- title only: no flickering
- crop & title: flickering

Wnuk - here, on my PD10, switching all preferences between NTSC & PAL made no difference. Same results as above.

Almost as George found, flickering only occurred when producing to DVD HQ and DVD SP, not other MPEG-2 profiles.

Popped all the produced files in the timeline to render as WMV & post here, but that made the flickering even worse (venetian flicker)... so you'll just have to take my word for it.

Win 7 (64bit) - Core i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz - NVIDIA GTX 260

Cheers - Tony
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Tony; Is PAL the standard in Australia? When I take George's original m2ts file and put it on the timeline, this is the message that pops up. So I let PD convert it to NTSC then produced to an MPEG2 DVD HD which I assume also was NTSC. That's the file I reposted earlier for him.

Interesting how different systems produce different results.

I'm running Win 7 64 with an I7, 6G RAM, and a GForce GT440

Wnuk -

Yes - PAL is standard in Australia. I didn't receive that alert because (a) I have that confirmation unchecked in Preferences & (b) I generally build (my most common) projects in NTSC anyway.

Other (possibly unrelated) quirks of PD10's production of MPEG-2 DVD HQ have been posted and referred to CyberLink... http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/20748.page

People might say "What's that got to do with it?" My response is that producing George's original.m2ts, with cropping and titles, in PD9, yields a correct result with no flickering! Yet, when you compare the DVD HQ profile details in PD9 & PD10, they appear to be identical.

There you go - differing results on different systems - differing results on different versions of PD... using the same original clip, the same settings, the same editing process & the same profile.

Cheers - Tony




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Quote: Wnuk -
There you go - differing results on different systems - differing results on different versions of PD... using the same original clip, the same settings, the same editing process & the same profile.

Hi All,
The truth is more shocking than this...
All kind of weird things happen when producing DVD from PD10 with "layered" material, let it be subtitles, transitions, Titles or anything, as long as Power Tools - Video Crop is applied simultaneously.
The more I go analysing the problems the more I'm convinced that Power Tools - Video Crop is messing all things up (hint for the guys in CyberLink )
Γιώργος Κοπελιάδης

Meanwhile I turned back to PD9 giving up all the nice things of PD10.
I couldn't install both versions on my PC to produce BD with PD10. Need another computer Γιώργος Κοπελιάδης

Has this problem been solved yet? Is there a workaround?

Hi WimV -

This is an old thread but, for PD10 users, a current issue. Testing at the time was done using the current patch (PD10 2231) & nothing has changed.

Applying video crop & a title to George's original clip & producing to MPEG-2 DVD HQ or DVD SP results in flickering. This has been replicated with a number of other clips from different cameras.

Neither PD9 nor PD11 exhibit the same flaws with MPEG-2 DVD HQ/SP production.

There is no workaround within PD10. Even first producing to MPEG-2 or AVC 1920x1080, then re-producing to DVD HQ results in combing artifacts. Reverting to PD9 (as George did) or using PD11 might be considered workarounds.

So - bottom line - issue unresolved.

Cheers - Tony
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Thanks for your info, Tony! Good to know upgrading to PD11 solves the issue.

Best,
Wim