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Fade out a bunch of PIPs
jerrys
Senior Contributor Location: New Britain, CT, USA (between New York and Boston) Joined: Feb 10, 2010 21:36 Messages: 1038 Offline
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I am using a whacking great pile of stills in order to give the appearance of objects popping into existence one after the other. What I need, however, is to have them all fade out at the same time, so that the composite image fades.

Is there any easy way to do this, or do I have to apply the transition to each track separately?

Ideally, I'd like a cross-fade; but I certainly can't see any way of accomplishing that without producing a video and using that instead. Jerry Schwartz
Cranston
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Aug 17, 2007 02:26 Messages: 1667 Offline
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jerrys,

Let’s say you have 8 tracks open, that make up your composite image, that you want to fade out.
If you don’t mind a bit of fade to black, you can just use a black (or any color) color board, and set it to fade in and out, as shown in quick video here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUYHBNsRHDI

See image below, and note the key frames positions.





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jerrys
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Elegant solution, Cranston. I would never have thought of that.

Thanks. Jerry Schwartz
Xerox [Avatar]
Contributor Location: California, USA Joined: Aug 09, 2009 01:36 Messages: 446 Offline
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There is a way where you can apply the same transition to all the clips you want with one command. But first you need to create a new folder in the transition room, and then drag and drop into it the desired transistion from one of the other transistion folders. Now you can use the "apply random transition to all videos" command. The transition will be applied to the clips that you have selected. I found a bug if you use the "overlay" option. Only clips on track 1 will get the overlay transitions. The clips on the other tracks get cross transitions. Somehow I managed to get overlay working on the other tracks after fiddling around. Gateway DX4380, AMD A8-5500 Quad Core 3.2GHz with ATI Radeon HD 7560D; 16GB RAM; 1 TB SATA 7200 RPM; Windows 8 Pro 64-bit; PDR11, PDVD12.
Cranston
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Hi Xerox,

Yes, that is also a solution. A good one!

However (assuming that one doesn’t mind a fade to black then back into the next image or clip), using the color board fade in out via PIP Designer, is far less stressful on one’s computer (if you have a lower to medium spec’ed rig), as the computer is not processing 7, or 9, or 12, fade transitions, in multiple tracks, all at the exact same time.

The reason I came up with using the black color board fade thing, is because my laptop (at the time), simply locked up, and often crashed, when trying to process 8+ fade transitions simultaneously, when 8+ tracks were being used to create composites.


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jerrys
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I'm too used to thinking horizontally. I never used the "apply random transition to all videos", but out of ignorance I assumed it would apply to an entire track. It never occured to me that you could apply it vertically.

Xerox, you're saying that the "random" transitions are selected from only the selected folder? I'll file that away in that part of my memory that has become "write only." Jerry Schwartz
BarryTheCrab
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ynotfish
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Jerry -

Here are a couple of little toots about that very thing. In those videos, it refers to using the Favourites... but, as Xerox says, the same thing applies to the transitions within a particular folder. In PD8 (where the original tutorial was made), that wasn't an option.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2aWV4QR3T8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70CTEAI9ozI

Cheers - Tony
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ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Online
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Quote: I found a bug if you use the "overlay" option. Only clips on track 1 will get the overlay transitions. The clips on the other tracks get cross transitions. Somehow I managed to get overlay working on the other tracks after fiddling around.


Xerox - that's not happening here.

If I select "Apply Fading Transition to all Videos > Cross Transition" All tracks get cross transitions applied.
If I select "Apply Fading Transition to all Videos > Overlap Transition" All tracks get overlap transitions applied.

Maybe other members could test that.

Cheers - Tony
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Xerox [Avatar]
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When I had the problem, I had 8 tracks with two stills on each, and I had selected all the clips. When I don't select the clips, I don't have a problem. I selected the 16 clips because I thought in a real situation that other clips would be on the timeline that wouldn't be included in the fade, so I would have to select the ones I wanted to fade.

Today when I tried this experiment again, only track 8 ended up with a cross transition when I selected the overlap. Gateway DX4380, AMD A8-5500 Quad Core 3.2GHz with ATI Radeon HD 7560D; 16GB RAM; 1 TB SATA 7200 RPM; Windows 8 Pro 64-bit; PDR11, PDVD12.
ynotfish
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Hi Xerox -

I've tried & tried, but I can't get the thing to misbehave. Maybe I'm not following your steps properly.

It makes no difference whether you select certain clips/images or not - using "Apply to all" does just that... applies the transition to ALL clips & images.

The screen capture attached shows what I was doing.

Cheers - Tony
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Xerox [Avatar]
Contributor Location: California, USA Joined: Aug 09, 2009 01:36 Messages: 446 Offline
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Tony,

Take another look at you video. At 1:28 into your video you will see that on the last track that you have a cross transition while the 7 tracks above have overlap transitions. That was after you selected those 16 clips and then applied the overlap transition to all.

That's exactly what I got today.

xerox

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ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Online
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Exactly right Xerox - How did I miss that? Don't worry - you'll be old too, one day.

Funny - the same thing didn't occur once I removed the video from track 1.

Thank you for pointing that out, anyway. It helps to clarify the issue. I guess we could say it's not (exactly) a bug, because it only occurs when one is taking superfluous action (i.e.selecting clips or images).

Cheers - Tony

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