Hi Chuck,
Is the issue very noticeable when you edit/split/delete a clip and then hit play? Resulting in the audio and the video being totally out of whack when previewing immediately?

Dafydd

Edit: Typo correction

Dafyyd,

No, it's observable prior to any splitting or editing of any kind. I load the clip into track, and search for the telltale sync marks in the audio (always easy to spot: 4 sharp spikes for the rim shots). In this project, two of the 5 clips happened to be fairly long (~25 min: we did multiple takes without stopping the recording, with multiple sync marks). In these, the observed displacement by the time of the last sync mark (~200 min mark) was almost 8 seconds! In the shorter clips (which were used for overdubbing guitar leads, and just started recording at a minute or two before the last sync mark), the displacement was less than a second, but still VERY noticeable, of course.

After I get the video clips and audio synched, I do not OBSERVE any subsequent drift in the produced product. This is one I did two weeks ago that required my locating sync marks visually [don't judge the video issues based on your opinion of the song please ]:


The displacement just seems to be in the editing process. Chuck Puckett
"I don't want to steal the show. I only want to borrow it for a while"
http://www.puckettpublishing.com
http://www.chuckpuckettsongaweek.com

BTW: I am also experiencing unbelievable instability on this project, even more than I've seen since installing PD10. PD10 has just stopped working about 10 times (you will have received automated crash reports, or at least PD put up a message box saying they were sent). I can only get in maybe 5 minutes editing before it crashes, usually (but not always) while I'm playing back the movie. Chuck Puckett
"I don't want to steal the show. I only want to borrow it for a while"
http://www.puckettpublishing.com
http://www.chuckpuckettsongaweek.com

Hi Chuck (any chance you getting my name right?),

I'm just looking for more info at the moment which I can pass onto CyberLink.

1. Please can you provide the camera make/model info please and a 5 second video sample.
2. If you can put together and Export a short project which shows the out of sync set up, please let me know. I would give you an FTP location to upload to.
3. Please attach here your PC's diagnostic files.
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/7958.page
Part A & B

I thought your issue was the same as I've experienced - it isn't. What's needed is for CL's R&D to replicate the issue and correct and to do that they need a project and the data I've requested.

Dafydd

Dafydd (hope the two "yy"s didn't produce some Welsh insult ,
We're using two Lumix, one is a DMC ZS3, little over a year old. I believe the other is a later model ZS3 as well (operates and looks the same), but is only 7-8 months old.
The third camera is a Canon Vixia HF10, about 2.5 years old.
All three produce the phenomenom.

I'll work up the submission files when I get home from work this evening. I should be able to produce an abbreviated project with the problem.

Thanks

P.S. Hope I made the right deduction w.r.t. "Welsh" and didn't produce another faux pas. That spelling of David has always made me think Welsh. But Bevan... not so sure Chuck Puckett
"I don't want to steal the show. I only want to borrow it for a while"
http://www.puckettpublishing.com
http://www.chuckpuckettsongaweek.com

Hi Chuck,
Dafydd is pronounced Da-Vith. Bevan, the "B" = 'aB, from Mab meaning "son of", and is identically in use to the Gaelic "Mac". In fact my last name could be "ab Ieuan" but since the name derives from a time when a man would list a line of forefathers to show who he was, I'll stay with Bevan, as I really don't want to write a list of the names/ generations down (here) which I can recall verbatim ha ha

I'll look for your reply later.

Hwyl

Dafydd ab *****(my father's name)

I have a zip file, but it's 1.3 GB: project and MTS file. Let me know where to upload it. (though it may be Monday: I'm leaving town 5AM tomorrow for the weekend)

1. Which operating system do you use, W7, Vista, XP?
Win 7

2. Which version of PD, See Part A below
PD10, 10.0.01012

3. Which SR number (available in the "About" box of PD and is NOT the CD-Key!)
VDE110929-04

4. What kind of video source material used (codec / container), extension? We often ask for a 5 to 10 second sample , please provide one as an attachment.
.MTS, example included in zip file

5. A detailed step by step description of the problem. See Part D below.
Load file clip into a track. Audio becomes further out of sync with video the further into the clip

6. What anti-virus solution is installed on your PC?
Not aware

7. What codec packs installed? See PD's Readme html file
No idea

8. What other video editing programs are installed - just in case there is a software conflict.
Premiere Elements 8, but has not been used in a year

9. What burning software is installed on your PC?
HP standard stuff

10. What type of blank disk was used, if you have a burning create issue?
Not an issue

11. What background processes / programs running (especially important for problems with the burning)?
None

12. Provide the dxdiag log file as an attachment, see Part B below
Chuck Puckett
"I don't want to steal the show. I only want to borrow it for a while"
http://www.puckettpublishing.com
http://www.chuckpuckettsongaweek.com

Thanks Chuck,
I have sent you the FTP information and passed everything to CyberLink.
Dafydd

Same problem here with Audio Drifting. Hoping there is a solution for this issue.

I've yet to put my finger on it but I have also noticed strange audio track shifting in certain situations. In my case I'm adding in an external audio track to an existing video clip and intermittently the end of the audio ends sooner than the visual track display for the audio track ????? When I figure out the failing sequence I'll post it. Win 10, i7

Just curious if there had been any movement on this issue... Chuck Puckett
"I don't want to steal the show. I only want to borrow it for a while"
http://www.puckettpublishing.com
http://www.chuckpuckettsongaweek.com

Just curious if there had been any movement on this issue...

Typically, the only time you will know what the status of any item is, when a new patch comes out and you test to see if it is fixed.

I don't know that the period between Nov 18 (when Dafydd passed the issue to CYBERLINK) and Nov 22 (today) is even enough for someone inside the CYBERLINK team to TEST/reproduce it, let alone find a fix. Give it some more time, I suggest.

Oh. Gee, I was kinda looking for an acknowledgement, like "Got it. Working it."
Whatev. Turkey time coming up, and (pour moi) the Alabama-Auburn game, and seeing what insanity the BCS will produce amid this SEC domination.
So I can ease of the video production for a few days
Oh, and Roll Tide!! (in case there was any ambiguity). Chuck Puckett
"I don't want to steal the show. I only want to borrow it for a while"
http://www.puckettpublishing.com
http://www.chuckpuckettsongaweek.com

Cyberlink is not famous for (or infamous for their LACK of) communication...depending on who you are talking to.

The good news is, PD10 is the most recent product, so most of the techs are (I would expect) focused on issues within this version.

They do work on the issues reported by the Moderator here, so pull the wishbone on the turkey, then check back for a patch that might fix it!!

I have been working with Cyberlink Tech Support on this "audio displacement" introduced when I upgraded from PD9 Ultra64 to PD10 Ultra64. I may be closer to an answer for my own situation. I compared two mixed HDvideo (m2t) and HD photo projects, the first with progressive displacement of audio from linked video, and the second with no such problems. For both projects I wanted to maintain the linked audio as background while I added still photos at selected timeline points.

Type (a) with problems compounded by subsequent editing: I added photos to the video track 1 using "overwrite".

Type (b) without problems: I added photos on video track 2 at the time points of each video that I had used "overwrite" in (a).

I did not know when I started this current of projects that the photos on track 2 would take precedence over the video clip portion on track 1. This happy behaviour resulted in the played or produced video by both techniques looking the same. The difference was that (b) had no audio displacement regardless of any subsequent editing.

I had earlier noticed that any changes in (a) for durations, exchanges of transitions or clips etc also created some gray timeline blanks that PD10 did not recognize for correction by "remove gap". That is, "remove gap" stayed ghosted.

I have learned to minimize or avoid using "overwrite".

There is a short clip showing how PD7 can clean background noises and it's perfect - do you have one for PD10 since the functions are different Thanks!

I have carefully avoided using "overwrite" since my original posting.
I have made quite a number of videos since then without problems.

If I recall, I did have a couple of occasions where I did something, and used the"undo" function, which cleaned everything up.

No problems to overcome!

Thanks