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I have so much hatred for Power Director 14, where to begin
Dafydd B [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 26, 2006 08:20 Messages: 11973 Offline
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Hi Krugster,
You've got an interesting issue and production method.
I see ynotfish has pointed to the 2500 image workaround already and I can understand your feelings to editing 2500+ in the tracks. Your option to use 3rd party (QT) software is a better route for you.
Members could do with some additional info please.
1. A screenshot of the Edit workspace with your project insitu. Part E & F in the guide.
2. MediaInfo on the imported project video. Part J in the guide.
Guide: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/45453.page

Mov's (carrier format) have been giving PDR issues for years, often the selected video codec, the audio format, the overly high bitrate. The MediaInfo will show us (help us) what you're creating/importing. Perhaps, if possible, select a different format (and a different software to create the project video, first stage). For example an mp4 with an mp4 codec is a better option to import etc.

Advertisements have, as Barry has stated, been in PowerDirector (including 2707 of PDR14) for a good number of years. If you have uncheck/denied PDR the ability to auto update or stopped it accessing the internet previously that would explain why you have not seen the adverts until after you manually updated (and giving access to the program). Re-install the update is my suggestion.

What is the PSU in your computer? I use a 1000w.
What cooling system did you put in, sufficient to drop the heat within your box? When was the last time you cleaned out the dust?
The above are all factors that might cause a juddering of a system when editing. Lack of power supply, overheating CPU slows the processing of data.

Dual gpu, useless for PDR.

Just an opinion and suggestion that may help.
Dafydd

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ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Krugster -

You're sitting at a decent looking rig - better than anything I'm using - and you're having trouble with smooth playback, as you stated in your first post.

Now that you've explained more about what you're doing, I can't help thinking that the intermediate step of processing your image files as QT files is a good part of your problem. I understand how you came to that workflow, but I'm fairly certain that's exacerbating the issue.

What are the properties of the MOV clips processed in QT Pro? I guess 1920x1080. What codec is used? What's the video bitrate?

I've never tried to work with 27000 images in the timeline, so I have no idea how a PC would respond...

Cheers - Tony
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Dafydd B [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 26, 2006 08:20 Messages: 11973 Offline
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Hi Krugster,
Just a workaround thought and an experiment to try.
1. Run the output file from QT, the mov, through Handbrake (free software) and create an mp4/mp4 codec.
2. Uncheck the Shadow edit files, you shouldn't need those, 2x places in Preferences, General and Confirmation.
3. edit the files in PDR14 and see what difference there is.
Might be better.
Dafydd
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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G'day Krugster -

I did a bit of a test with some animation files (extracted from a HD cartoon), just to see how PDR would deal with them.

Firstly, I imported the images directly into PDR. That was a bit of a struggle for my PC - far less capable than yours! i7-3930K 16GB RAM GTX680. It "stopped working" when I tried to insert that last lot of 2500 images, so I ran the test with 7500 images only. Playback was silky smooth with preview resolution set to Full HD.

Toyed with the idea of reinstalling QT Pro, but decided to pre-process using VirtualDub instead. I imported the 11000+ PNG files & rendered as AVI - Lagarith Lossless - 80Mbps. Imported into PDR & (again) playback was effortless, even on my lesser PC.

Here's the screen capture showing both methods in playback.



Cheers - Tony
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Quote: I then take those thousands of individual frames and I use Quicktime Pro to convert them into manageable 10-20 second clips, which are then imported into PD 14 completely uncompressed quicktime/mov format. In quicktime, no compression is taking place as far as I can tell. In fact just the opposite. The final .mov clips are actually double the sum total size of the original .png files which would seem to indicate the exact opposite of compression is taking place.


That's your problem. Coming from Mac I can sse you being stuck in the Quicktime mindset, but in Windows QT is a horrid joke. Apple crippled the Windows version from beginning and now is not even supported.

Use mp4 or mkv containers with H264 encoding and you won't have issues.

Also I found out that having instaled on my computer the MPC-HC improved a lot the functionality of PD, because of added filters. Some people here, instead of installing MPC-HC, made a package with those filters (derived from K-Lite) and added VirtualDub.

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