Quote: Hi guys, another question for you here.

I've imported a number of videos into a new project and compiled them, edited, spliced, etc as I needed. Now I am running into the issue where it takes a moment to "render" a portion of the video. But it doesn't do this just once and then finish, it must render every time I play the project. I finally figured out what the green line on the timeline means, and I was able to determine that these render issues only happen for the clips that were originally in the MTS format (at higher resolution); the rest of my project was in MP4 format and I have had no issues with those clips. Also, the source footage for the MTS clips in my library have a little green film icon on the lower left hand side of them.

Why must it render every time it plays these clips, is there a way to make PD13 render and be done with it? Should I convert these clips to another format and re-import?

I'm using Windows 7 with onboard Intel graphics (non-dedicated).

Thanks

Try this. Once you have rendered your MTS clips into MP4 clips import the MP4 clips into your project and use them instead of the MTS clips. I am guessing that you are using the Edit function of Power Director when you talk about playing the project and the playback is slowerer with the high resolution MTS clips than with your lower resolution MP4 clips. You haven't actually rendered the video until you run through the Produce phase. If you produce an MP4 clip from an MTS clip you still have to change your project to use the MP4 clip instead of the MTS clip if you want to get the faster playback. Let me know if that helps.

Fabbian, is that not what I have been saying?? Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,

Quote: Try this. Once you have rendered your MTS clips into MP4 clips import the MP4 clips into your project and use them instead of the MTS clips. I am guessing that you are using the Edit function of Power Director when you talk about playing the project and the playback is slowerer with the high resolution MTS clips than with your lower resolution MP4 clips. You haven't actually rendered the video until you run through the Produce phase. If you produce an MP4 clip from an MTS clip you still have to change your project to use the MP4 clip instead of the MTS clip if you want to get the faster playback. Let me know if that helps.

Thanks but I am still editing the project. I will of course publish once I have finished the project. Currently the preview playback stutters on the clips that were originally MTS source footage. I'm assuming this will go away when I final render to publish but it's still frustrating because we are going to need to record a voice over and when the video stutters it messes with the timing.

So I have disabled the shadow files as others recommended and the preview still stutters on the transitions between the MTS clips. The green bar on the timeline however doesn't span the entire section of MTS clips, only the transitions, which is an improvement.

I attached a screenshot of the timeline so you can see what I mean.

Is there a way to copy a clip out so that I may convert just that clip to MP4 and replace it? I don't want to convert the entire MTS footage to MP4 and re-import because then I'd have to edit the video to the clip lengths again.

I think as I said before you will have to bite the bullet and edit the original clips (somebody may know different, but I cant see a way) and then re-enter them into the timeline.

I think your stuttering is being caused by your heavy use of power tools or whatever is putting that "i" on the clips in the timeline.

Just what size are those MTS clips. highlight one right click on it, go to properties and see what the #### x ####, and what is the bitrate.

You can always render the film without sound and then import the completed film back into PD and then do a voice over. Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,

Quote: I think your stuttering is being caused by your heavy use of power tools or whatever is putting that "i" on the clips in the timeline.

Just what size are those MTS clips. highlight one right click on it, go to properties and see what the #### x ####, and what is the bitrate.

The only Power Tools I'm using is the stabilizer because the video is a bit shaky in parts. I added that later though and there was stuttering on the MTS clips since the beginning. It's really only on the transitions (cross-fade), not so much on the clips themselves.

Attached is a screenshot of the video properties.

Quote: I think as I said before you will have to bite the bullet and edit the original clips (somebody may know different, but I cant see a way) and then re-enter them into the timeline.

In the future perhaps I will do that. Not sure if it's worth it for this one project though.

Quote: You can always render the film without sound and then import the completed film back into PD and then do a voice over.

Yes I will probably do this. Or else render, record the sound, and add the sound track to PD then render again.

Have you downloaded the very latest Intel Graphics driver? I downloaded the latest driver and it really helped Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,

Quote: Have you downloaded the very latest Intel Graphics driver? I downloaded the latest driver and it really helped

No I have not. I'm on a work computer and require admin password to install anything I can try this though, where did you get it?

Also I just converted one of the videos to MP4, re-imported and reclipped and the same thing happens again unfortunately. For some reason it only seemed to start after I added the transition though. Thus I'm assuming the issue must be with the resolution? Next I guess I will try to convert to 720p and see what happens.

Allan, you should find it here.

http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect

This may be a case that your computer processor is not up to it.

In windows START type dxdiag and tell us what processor you have and what RAM Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,

The computer met all installation critera and then some.

Intel Core i5-3470S

4096MB Ram



EDIT: In a previous post I was mistaken. The other video footage is MPEG-2 in *.mpg format at 720x480. Thus far I have been unable to find a video converter that will take the MTS video and output MPG. It may be a format issue, not sure anymore...

I would say that that is about a basic as you can get for what you want to do. A bit more RAM would be useful Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,

I have just converted an MTS file to MPG using Format Factory Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,

Quote: I would say that that is about a basic as you can get for what you want to do. A bit more RAM would be useful

No arguments there! It's a work computer I'll take what I can get. All the computers were recently "upgraded" too

What date is your Intel driver from? I believe mine was 8/2014.

I shall have to try Format Factory next. Again, work computer, so I prefer portable apps to avoid the hassle of calling IT.

EDIT: To be perfectly honest, aside from this one issue, I have been thoroughly impressed with how user-friendly and fast PD has been. I worked with a media guy a few months ago who used Final Cut Pro on a professional Apple workstation and we experienced far more "rendering" issues. PD13 seems to be faster and smoother, even on my crappy desktop. Besides, this way I get to edit everything to my own exacting standards. Overall PD is a great package.

I posted here looking for a quick fix to this minor concern but it doesn't look like I'll get to the bottom of it any time soon. I'll try the file format thing and after that just leave it be. Thanks for all your input.

Quote:
Is there a way to copy a clip out so that I may convert just that clip to MP4 and replace it? I don't want to convert the entire MTS footage to MP4 and re-import because then I'd have to edit the video to the clip lengths again.

Here's one way you can do that.

1. Save your project.


2. Delete everything except the clip you want to convert.


3. Save the project under another name.


4. Produce the current project.


5. Load the original project.


6. Import the clip you produced in step 4.


7. Replace the original clip on the time line with the converted clip.

Quote: I have just converted an MTS file to MPG using Format Factory

I just tried this. Format Factory apparently took my 16:9 MTS file at 1440x1080 and "squashed" it to 3:4 at much lower resolution.

I'm using FF version 2.9 because I found it portable.. Maybe there are options for the resolution and aspect ratio with the newer version?

Open ff -click on "to MPG" - Load your clip into ff - click on output settings -click on "video size" and select the size required.

Allan, I think that will work for you. Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,

Well it looks like these formatting issues finally went away!

I believe it was a file format issue. I converted the MTS files to MPG at 1080x720 and the preview playback is now smooth throughout. Maybe PD just doesn't like the MTS format. The resolution of the files may have contributed, I'm not sure, but I believe the file format to be the culprit more than the resolution.

Anyway, lesson learned. Also perhaps CyberLink can use this as feedback if there's any product improvement that can be gleaned from this.

Thanks to everyone for your input.

Well done, Allen. We got there in the end Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,

Hi Allan -

I know you've resolved your current problem but I just read your statement that PDR "just doesn't like the MTS format". That's just not true. Both my Canons record as .MTS and PDR has no issues with them at all. Happy as Larry.

It's possible it's a codec issue on the PC you're using. That's why converting the clips did the trick. It's important, when converting, to take care to retain resolution & bitrate otherwise you could be creating further quality issues down the track.

Cheers - Tony
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