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PowerDirector Ultra64 9.0.0.2930 hangs reproducibly -- can't make progress
bryanhiggs [Avatar]
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Dafydd asked me to re-post a series of posts I'd made before, under a new topic. I hope that means that someone can give me some help on this issue!

The original posts were in a forum series entitled "Powerdirector Update patch 2930_GM5_Patch_VDE110516-02 Crashing and Hangs"

I'll post my first one here, and then post subsequent ones, as replies to this one.

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I am encountering serious hanging problems with PowerDirector Ultra64 9.0.0.2930 (i.e. with this patch applied -- as far as I can tell, there are no later patches). The problems have been getting worse over time; at this point, I bring up the project in PowerDirector and try to edit a title, and it doesn't respond. Eventually, I click, get the little whirling windows mouse icon and when I click again I get the usual dialog box telling me 'PowerDirector is not responding'.

I have also found recently that using the mouse to create a progressive audio fade (or the opposite) in the audio track of my videos in the video track on the timeline will also cause a similar hang. Both of these were readily reproducible -- the attempt to edit the title *always* causes a hang.

At this point, I am dead in the water and unless you can help me to overcome this problem, I will have to seek alternative solutions -- which I don't want to do, because I like the features of PD9.

I have checked that I have the latest drivers for my video card (Intel HD) on the Intel web page pointed to in these forums. It turns out that I have a custom driver supplied with my Sony laptop, and Intel can't update anything. I have the latest driver according to Sony.

I attach an image of the 'PowerDirector is not responding' dialog box, and the two requested diagnostics files. Providing a screen shot of my Powerdirector interface doesn't seem useful; I have a lot of still photos, video clips, titles, etc. Also, it's not clear to me that attempting to create a simple project to reproduce the problems would be useful, or even possible. However, if there's anything else you would find useful, I'd be happy to try to supply it/them. I'm motivated to overcome this problem, as it's getting old very quickly, and I cannot make any further progress using PD9 without a fix.

Thanks for listening, and thanks for anything you can do to help!

Regards

Bryan

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64_BryanHiggs_DxDiag.txt
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64-bit Diagnostic file
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40 Kbytes
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215 time(s)
[Thumb - PD9_NotRespondingDialogBox.jpg]
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PD9_NotRespondingDialogBox.jpg
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PowerDirector not responding dialog box
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BryanHiggs_DxDiag.txt
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Diagnostic file
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249 time(s)
bryanhiggs [Avatar]
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FWIW, I captured the details from the 'PowerDirector is not responding' dialog:
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PD9HangDetails.txt
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 Description
PD9 Hang Details
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944 bytes
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204 time(s)
bryanhiggs [Avatar]
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Again, FWIW, I've turned off graphics acceleration (there were two places where I interpreted that; I turned them both off). No observable change.

I also tried using your suggested NoSleepHD2.0v. I had to run it with Administrator privileges, otherwise it just hung. But when I ran it and set up the no sleep option, it had no observable effect.

Not sure what to try next...
bryanhiggs [Avatar]
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[Here is a helpful response from Rocket-Scientist]

Bryan,

There are several topics on problems with the newer Intel onboard or integrated graphics and video editing, not just with PD9, but no denying PD9 does also.

IF you are editing HD, your video system could be a problem ... you have 4 GB of memory, 1.7GB of that memory is "shared" ie used by video card, that does not leave a lot for OS plus editor.
WINDOWS 7 PRO 64 BIT [SP1]
GIGABYTE 770TA-UD3 MB
PHENOM II X4 (3.0GHZ) 16 GB DDR3
NVIDIA 560GTX [1GB] 280.56 WHQL
2X 2TB SATA III, 2X 1TB SATA II
500GB SATA II, 350GB 10K RPM SYSTEM
PD9 ULTRA64 9.0.0.3305
bryanhiggs [Avatar]
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[My response to Rocket-Scientist]

Thanks, Rocket-scientist!

I just ordered a memory upgrade to 8Gb, which should improve matters in that area. We'll see when it arrives and I've installed it.

Not sure what if anything I can do about the Intel HD video. Do they typically allow video cards to be added to laptops?

By the way, I tried to do a search for information about problems with Intel HD video, looking for potential solutions, and couldn't find anything recent or useful. Can you give me any more specific pointers? Thanks!
bryanhiggs [Avatar]
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I'm not sure whether this is related, but I just noticed that there are around 40 instances of CES_IPCAgent.exe running on my system, and PowerDirector isn't running. I note in another forum/note that others have discovered a number of such instances running on their systems, but there didn't seem to be any resolution to the problem.

Anyone know anything about this?

Thanks in advance...
 Filename
CES_IPCAgent.dmp
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"Minidump" of CES_IPCAgent.exe instance
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3344 Kbytes
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271 time(s)
bryanhiggs [Avatar]
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Well, I'm now at 8Gb of main RAM. My laptop is noticeably more responsive, in general.

However, PD9 still won't bring up the Edit Title dialog on that title I want to change in that project. I even removed the title, added another one in its place, and tried to edit it, and still it hangs.

And I'm starting to accumulate those CES_IPCAgent.exe processes again. I just blew away about 5 of them.

If it's the Intel HD graphics, I don't know what to do about that. I doubt it it, because I've created multiple similarly sized projects on this machine in the past, and not encountered this level of problem.

Can someone PLEASE help me?

Thanks!
bryanhiggs [Avatar]
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[Another helpful response from Rocket-Scientist]

with the added memory, i suspect it is not you Intel video.

What kind of video clip was the title overlaying? (color board, part of the edited video, or special "clip art")

You may have a corrupted .pds file, which has "lost" a pointer to something critical to the title. A filename changed or moved to new location, or overwritten by another type of file.
WINDOWS 7 PRO 64 BIT [SP1]
GIGABYTE 770TA-UD3 MB
PHENOM II X4 (3.0GHZ) 16 GB DDR3
NVIDIA 560GTX [1GB] 280.56 WHQL
2X 2TB SATA III, 2X 1TB SATA II
500GB SATA II, 350GB 10K RPM SYSTEM
PD9 ULTRA64 9.0.0.3305
bryanhiggs [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Sep 01, 2011 16:04 Messages: 23 Offline
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[Also from Rocket-Scientist]

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/15/15459.page

this is the only discussion i found on CES_IPCagent ...
seems to be related to SmartSound, by any chance did the video you had under the title have a smartsound track?
WINDOWS 7 PRO 64 BIT [SP1]
GIGABYTE 770TA-UD3 MB
PHENOM II X4 (3.0GHZ) 16 GB DDR3
NVIDIA 560GTX [1GB] 280.56 WHQL
2X 2TB SATA III, 2X 1TB SATA II
500GB SATA II, 350GB 10K RPM SYSTEM
PD9 ULTRA64 9.0.0.3305
bryanhiggs [Avatar]
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[Dafydd Bevan's post]

Hi bryanhiggs,
Please start a new topic and include all the information related to your issue. the current heading of this thread was started by another and your content is a different matter.

New topic link: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/jforum.page?modul...osts&action=insert&forum_id=67

CyberLink would like you to list your issue, the stages you take to bring up your problem, please list and take screenshots.

thank you.

Forum Moderator.
bryanhiggs [Avatar]
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I just updated to PowerDirector Ultra64 9.0.0.3305 using the update link that came up when I started PowerDirector.

Things may have improved. I'll have to spend more time with it to find out...
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