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curt y [Avatar]
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I would like to zoom in and pan, then stay there for a few frames, then zoom out.

Do you have to pick each frame and do an operation to it, trying to get it to start at place of last frame, or is there a way to keep the zoom and location for several frames?

There is a zoom in and out, but see no way to pan with this option. Only option I see is to use the motion magic/wizzard.

Options?
Xerox [Avatar]
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You can use the PIP designer. Select the clip on the timeline, then click the "Modify" button. You can keyframe the motion to hold a position for a period of time.

It's a little tricky trying to zoom in and out.

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This image might help...



Cheers - Tony
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curt y [Avatar]
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Tony

Too much of a newbie to decipher your message. Did you text in the zoom in pan zoom out, or am I in the wrong window? In magic motion I clicked the pan and zoom icon, but there is no text in the window.

Taking this image as an example. Copy and paste 3 more images of this, and then zoom in on the rocks in the middle, hold for 2 frames, then zoom out again.

In simple terms how can I best do that?

Thanks

garioch7
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Curt:

There are some excellent tutorial videos on the DirectorZone web site, and also on PDToots. It would really take a lot of time to tell you exactly how to do it, but it is rather simple once you get the hang of it. If, after watching the tutorials and reading the Guides, you still have specific questions, the gurus here (not me) will be delighted to help you out.

Have a great weekend and Happy PowerDirecting!

Regards,
-Phil
ynotfish
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Hi Curt -

This tutorial (though not exactly what you're talking about) will show you a bit about using those keyframes in magic motion...
http://www.youtube.com/user/ynotfish77#p/u/9/exuj2dhRZjY

As Phil said, once you begin trying it out yourself it becomes simpler to understand.

This tutorial is specifically on Keyframes & PiP Motion... http://www.youtube.com/user/PDtoots#p/u/18/4gPt7y6ipo0

To achieve the zoom > pan > zoom you're after, either PiP Designer or Magic Motion could be used.

Yes - I did add the words to the screen shots. I thought they'd help explain it.

Cheers - Tony
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curt y [Avatar]
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Thanks for those clips. I have seen similar and was doing something close to that, although the explanation of duplicating key frames to pause was good.

My question still remains. To make it simple say I have 4 frames whose scenes are similar (like group pictures) and I want to zoom in and pan to the right to select area on frame 1. Then on frames 2 and 3 I want to keep this same zoom and pan position, then on frame 4 go back to normal view.

I can handle frames 1 and 4, but do not know how to get frames 2, 3 and 4 to start where the previous frame left off. I could try to replicate the zoom and pan of frame and on frames 2-4 by manually adjusting each frame's focal point. But that is tedious.

The question was, is there some way for PD9 to help me to automate this process? Perhaps by looking at the keyframe info at the end of frame 1 and then duplicating it for start of frame 2, 3, and 4? I can't see that option.

Is there a better way, or am I stuck adjusting the zoom and pan manually for each frame?


bestbass42
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Quote: Hi Curt -

This tutorial (though not exactly what you're talking about) will show you a bit about using those keyframes in magic motion...
http://www.youtube.com/user/ynotfish77#p/u/9/exuj2dhRZjY

As Phil said, once you begin trying it out yourself it becomes simpler to understand.

This tutorial is specifically on Keyframes & PiP Motion... http://www.youtube.com/user/PDtoots#p/u/18/4gPt7y6ipo0

To achieve the zoom > pan > zoom you're after, either PiP Designer or Magic Motion could be used.

Yes - I did add the words to the screen shots. I thought they'd help explain it.



Carl i was on the verge of asking a similar question myself,but i followed your youtube link & i think ive got it now,very helpful.
Cheers - Tony

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curt y [Avatar]
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[quote=curt y]

My question still remains. To make it simple say I have 4 frames whose scenes are similar (like group pictures) and I want to zoom in and pan to the right to select area on frame 1. Then on frames 2 and 3 I want to keep this same zoom and pan position, then on frame 4 go back to normal view.

I can handle frames 1 and 4, but do not know how to get frames 2, 3 and 4 to start where the previous frame left off. I could try to replicate the zoom and pan of frame and on frames 2-4 by manually adjusting each frame's focal point. But that is tedious.

The question was, is there some way for PD9 to help me to automate this process? Perhaps by looking at the keyframe info at the end of frame 1 and then duplicating it for start of frame 2, 3, and 4? I can't see that option.

Is there a better way, or am I stuck adjusting the zoom and pan manually for each frame?


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Senior Member Location: Miami, Florida Joined: Feb 25, 2010 06:35 Messages: 282 Offline
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Hi Curt,

For the life of me, I have not been able to follow your question. Despite Tony's assertion that his tutorial, http://www.youtube.com/user/ynotfish77#p/u/9/exuj2dhRZjY, does not totally illustrate a solution to your original question, I submit that it does. You do not state that you have watched it. If not, you should do so. The second clip Tony offers was done by Carsten. It shows how to totally control path, size of image and duration. It, too, is very competent.

Passing on to your restated question, I admit that I do not believe I follow it. If you are turning photos into a video, as in Tony's tutorial, the issue of duration can be solved in the timeline, after you have added the zoom in/out. Simply split at the frame you want to extend and then expand it by dragging to the number of frames you want. The precise number of frames is easily adjusted.

Now, I submit that The tutorials very competently answer your original inquiry, but that they may not deal with your restated inquiry and that I have probably totally misinterpreted your problem. However, whatever your restated question may be, please start a new thread and someone will deal with it, probably not me because it is apparently too subtle for me.

Thanks,

Pax

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curt y [Avatar]
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Pax or anyone else

All the tutorials I have seen are based on using one picture (frame) to Zoom and pan or whatever effect one wants. I get that.

My question revolves around using 4 different pictures (frames) that are of the same subject, zooming in on a area in 1st picture, then in pictures 2, 3, and 4 the zoom and pan STARTS at the same position as it left off of in picture 1.

As an example you have 4 shots of a boy catching a fish. On the first picture you zoom and pan to boy, the 2nd and 3rd pictures you keep that spot as the boy catches the fish, then in picture 4 you zoom out to full view.

One can zoom and pan each picture individually, but this can be tedious if you have say 12 pictures. I wanted to know if PD9 will be able to keep the focus area of the previous picture so one can start on the new frame where the last one left off.

All the tutorials deal with only one picture at a time the way I see it.

Did not follow your last sentence, perhaps that is the key. "Simply split at the frame you want to extend and then expand it by dragging to the number of frames you want. The precise number of frames is easily adjusted. "



Hope this makes it clearer.
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Senior Member Location: Miami, Florida Joined: Feb 25, 2010 06:35 Messages: 282 Offline
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Hi Curt,

Thank you for explaining your first post. As I suspected, I did not fully understand it. Most of my difficulty was in misinterpreting the words you used, but I think I now see the unanswered part of your question that you still seek. If I grasp it, you want to reproduce a set of PIP commands and apply then to any or all pictures (frames) in a set of pictures.

I do not know how to do this, but my guess that it is in all probability, doable.

If you go to the PIP Objects room (f5) of PD9 and preview the "Rubber Ducky" and the "Crow" objects, you will see just that. These objects can be imposed on any picture (frame) desired. The trick would be to make a custom object with the motion paths and pauses you want. In the Objects Room, there are drop down menus to create new PIP objects from an image (frame) or modify an existing object. See Chapter 3 in "Introduction To Creative Movie Making", available for download above.

I would be surprised if there is no one on this forum to explain the particulars, or guide you to a tutorial on it. I have not searched for one.

My reference to frames was to the timeline. Under the preview window are two arrows which allow you to move the cursor one frame at a time. A counter is provided so you can retrieve your precise location on the timeline in the future. You can expand an image on the timeline in PD9. It simply reproduces the expanded frame to the number of frames you desire.

Good luck, and thanks for explaining what you meant. I hope this, at least energizes you in the direction of a final solution.

Pax

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Isn't this just a question of saving the first motion path, applying it to the second image, removing the earlier key frame instructions so the "finish point" of the saved motion path is retained and then used for the second image to create a new motion path. Then repeating the same procedure for subsequent images and PiP's.

Ultimately an editor should experiment. This is how all of us have done to learn how to use a function.

Dafydd
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Dafydd,

Thanks for steering me in the right direction. That indeed works.

Experimenting is a given, but at some point hints like you gave, although simple to you, are what is needed to reduce the frustration level and make some progress.

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