Dual (Double) Layer Blu-ray Disc BD-RE Burn Success

Bob in Tucson

Member Location: Milwaukee, Denver, Tucson Joined: May 30, 2008 18:11 Messages: 133 Offline

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Mar 13, 2010 18:22

(for what it's worth)
I know that Blu-ray is on it's way out. Nobody is buying BD's, single or dual.
I just got an urge to try a BD Dual Layer.
I had a couple of beers one night last week and bought a Sony dual-layer BD-RE on Amazon.
I tried to burn it today and here's what happened.
I assembled a project of 17 AVCHD clips, various sizes from 18GBS down to 1GB.
Total of over 5hrs40mins.
Added about 18 chapters.
No edits and none of the clips require rendering or re-rendering. (whatever that's called that takes a lot more time to do.)

The 1st attempt was a bust.
PD just crashed, no error message, just got that window that says "do you want to report this crash to Microsoft....etc, etc?"

The 2nd attempt was successful.
Did not re-boot, nor clear the RAM memory. Just did a simple 'earse disc'... then hit the burn button again.
It played Ok, in all it's glory, on my PS3, like all other single-layer BDs have done.

ps: The 'erase disc' function in PD apparently had no trouble erasing the dual-layer BD-RE.
pps: PD said the disc capacity is 49202mbs, but won't burn more than 48440mbs.

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AllenChicago

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Mar 13, 2010 23:31

Bob, what do you mean by "Blu-Ray is on its way out."? This guy at the
CompUSA store told me the same thing about month ago, but I didn't
ask him to elaborate.

If Blu-Ray is about to become obsolete, what type of medium is
replacing it for showing Hi-Definition videos? Since more and more
people are recording with HD Camcorders, hopefully some type of
affordable equipment is coming along that will be in most homes
for the next couple of decades.

I have hundreds of hours of Hi-Def ACVHD clips sitting (and growing)
on stand-alone hard drives waiting for the day when a permanent,
portable, affordable standard arrives. I think most people with
DVD players will then upgrade to whatever player meets those
criteria.

This wasn't the purpose of your post, but you helped me decide NOT
to invest in Blu-Ray burning equipment and a player for the TV.
Thank-you Bob!

-Allen

James Dotson

Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline

Mar 14, 2010 00:18

From what I have heard they are increasing the capacity of the standard, which will require a firmware update on older players. Not sure how that will effect burners. __________________________________
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AllenChicago

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Mar 14, 2010 00:34

Will that allow standard DVD's to record/play High Definition video?
If so, that would be fantastic! I just don't want to invest the next
year in burning to a medium which will be obsolete 5 years from
now.

It would be awesome if all new televisions at some point came
with an internal wireless HD receiver and little 10TB thumb drives
were available that could broadcast HD video to these televisions.
Seems like technology should be getting close to that point in a
couple of years???

Bob in Tucson

Member Location: Milwaukee, Denver, Tucson Joined: May 30, 2008 18:11 Messages: 133 Offline

Mar 14, 2010 00:48

Allen,
Well, I went through 8 millimeter film, then video tape, then compact disc,
then digital video disc, and now Blu-ray. Next is the SD chip...??
I don't burn BDs for myself anymore, just for family and friends.
I store my video files on a couple of 1-terabyte hard drives and additional hard drives with backups.
For me, I felt it would be more convenient to use a device like the Western Digital WD-TV to play my videos.
Right now, it looks like the SD chip will replace the hard drive. No moving parts is the way to go.
But, it will be some time b4 large capacity SD chips are common.
I'm hoping to see a 'SD Player' set-top box, hook it to my TV,
insert my 10-terabyt SD card, loaded with all my videos, and press play.
I think the WD-TV is almost there.
Many of the latest TVs have a SD card slot in them now.

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James Dotson

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Mar 14, 2010 01:47

I think solid state drives are still just a little too expensive for that, but it won't be long before spinning discs are a thing of the past. Imagine if movie rental stores had no disc inventory. You rent a movie and they just upload it to a flash drive. Any movie ever made could be available in minutes from something no larger than a kiosk. That has nothing to do with PowerDirector, so I'll stop there. __________________________________
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Andrew - Wales, UK

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Mar 14, 2010 09:15

Hi,

I burn all my work to blu-ray and watch on my TV via my blu-ray player. I'm delighted with the quality of the picture . I can get about 3 hours of footage on a 25gb disc.

I've also burnt my work to AVCHD DVD for smaller projects. These can only be played on blu-ray players or PS3s and hold about 1 hour of HD footage on an 8.5gb disc.

The reason for investing in blu-ray is I want to watch footage of say my son in the quality it was shot in. I'd much rather that than downscale it to DVD or leave it on a harddrive and wait for an alternative.

For those of my friends and family who don't have blu-ray, I just select DVD in Create Disc and make them an SD DVD copy.

I can see the merits of streaming footage in your house, but I find the method I use more convenient and portable. Plus if my house burns down, my parents have a copy of all my footage, which is mostly of my son!

Blu-ray may be dead in the water, but for me it's the only method of production that suits mine and my families needs.

Each to their own!

Cheers,

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James Dotson

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Mar 14, 2010 13:41

I can see the merits of streaming footage in your house, but I find the method I use more convenient and portable. Plus if my house burns down, my parents have a copy of all my footage, which is mostly of my son!

I could not agree more. When I make a racing video one copy goes on YouTube and 4 copies go to the racers, with a backup on hard drive. That would be hard to do without discs of whatever format. I also do not like having only one copy on a hard drive that will eventually break, and have you ever backed up a 1TB hard disc? The beauty of technology is having alternatives to fit each need. __________________________________
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Andrew - Wales, UK

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Mar 14, 2010 13:58

Hi Jaime,

Yes I do! Haha! I have 2 2TB external hard drives, both containing 2 1 TB discs. One disc automatically copies the other within each unit.

One unit holds my raw camera files, the other my produced footage which I always burn to folders first on this unit before producing my discs.

Some may say I'm over cautious, but the footage of my son is priceless!

Plus our parents have copies of the discs so I've covered every base I think!! Haha!!

Cheers,

Andrew Alienware Aurora ALX R4 - Intel i7-4820 4.2 GHz - 32GB DDR3 RAM - Crucial 512GB SSD - 1TB Seagate HDD - 3TB WD Green HDD - 4TB WD Green HDD - MSI NVIDIA GTX 1070 8GB

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