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Solomon [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Feb 11, 2010 20:24 Messages: 12 Offline
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I have tried to encode my project on TMPG Enc to get a better encoding format for my project of 720 X 480 at 5700 Bit rate. On PD the SmartFit gave me 352 X 480 at around 5 Bit.

It saved my project as a Mpeg-2 video stream (m2v)(6 Gigs) and an audio wav(1.6 Gigs).

PD won't take this, how can i burn this file to disc as well as get my menu attached?

Scott
vn800rider
Senior Contributor Location: Darwen, UK Joined: May 15, 2008 04:32 Messages: 1949 Offline
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Try renaming the .m2v to .mpg, in many applications that can work.

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Solomon [Avatar]
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yes, thanks for the tip, I just noticed that TMPG has a Mpeg tool (Multiplex) that will remerge the audio and video into an Mpeg 2 format, not sure why it takes two steps, taking the produced AVI/audio and encode it while splitting the video and audio and then remerge them together. But i'm flying by the seat of my pants which is always and adventure until I run out of disc space.

Cheers Yourself,

Scott
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Solomon/Scott -

I have a project composed of pre-rendered mpeg-2 files, with a duration of 41:30:00 (41 minutes 30 seconds).

If I produce it as mpeg-2 using the built in DVD HQ profile, the file size is 2.8GB.

If, in the Produce module, I click on "Create a New Profile" (as I suggested) and modify the bitrate settings, I get the following example file sizes:

Standard DVD HQ 8MBps = 2.8GB
Bitrate Setting 20MBps = 7.1GB
Bitrate Setting 7.5MBps = 2.2GB
Bitrate Setting 7MBps = 2.0GB

Resolution settings remain unaltered.

This would be a far more direct route to your desired outcome.

Tony

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James Dotson
Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline
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I agree. Lowering the bitrate a little will give you a smaller file at better quality than lowering the resolution. That's what I do, too. My MPEG 2 HQ stays 720x480 and the DVD still looks good when played. __________________________________
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Solomon [Avatar]
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I agree lowering the bit rate a little to accomodate the original resolution of 720 X 480 is desired outcome.
Unfortunately we can't change the bit rate in the create a disc section which would be useful.
If i create a disc/file with the HQ setting it says 11Gigs

If I produce a file with HQ setting it comes out to around 6 Gigs, which when i open it back up into Pd and addchapters and menu it says 8 gigs

If I produce a AVI file then encode it in TMPG with 720 X 480 at 5.7 Bit VBR, then re open that in PD add chapters and menu, it come out to about the same 8 Gigs.
Anyone see any avenue I haven't???
Obviously with a project my size 2:28;00 its like trying to fit a elephant in the front door, I wouldn't have these issues if my files were only 2-3Gigs.

Scott/Solomon
ynotfish
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Scott -

That project I was referring to up there...

If I produce it as an AVI (DV-AVI), the file size will be 10.2GB. As mpeg-2 DVD HQ it's only 2.8GB! It looks to me like you're creating your own elephant!

You have a video that's in .mpeg-2 format... you're going to produce it as an AVI... then burn it a DVD, during which time it will be re-encoded as a .VOB file, which is based on the mpeg format.

You've taken the thing out of PD, to re-encode it. You want to bring it back into PD to re-re-encode it, then you'll burn it to a disc which will re-re-re-encode it... and it will end up squished onto a DVD in much the same format as it began.

Good luck - Tony


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James Dotson
Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline
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I just opened a video that I previously produced to MPEG 2 and it was just over 5000kbs. I produced it again at a lower bitrate and it came out at just over 3000kbs. I then burned a dvd folder using DVD HQ setting and the resulting vob was about 10kbs more than my low bitrate file. So, I guess the answer is that if you produce it first, it should use your produced file's bitrate. That was just one quick test. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. __________________________________
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Jaime, you are correct.

Tony, yeah, I saw that one too

Dafydd
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Solomon [Avatar]
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Yes thanks Jaime I was hoping that would be the case, if i produce an HQ setting and reopen it to bring into create a disc (which is usually smaller than when the original file is brought into create a disc/file), the Create a file/disc HQ setting will not further compress the project. But my question remains, why does producing a HQ Meg make a smaller file (6.39Gigs) than Create a Folder/Disc estimates fitting on a disc? (11 Gigs)

And no I am not reencoding mpeg-AVI-Mpeg, maybe I should have said I started out with AVI. So i am simply trying to get my 28 GIG project down onto a dual layer disc with the original resolution of 720 X 480.

I did use HQ setting and make my own profile in Produce, just so you don't think i am ignoring your advice Tony. My afterthought is what to do with that produced file and does taking it and starting a new project and burning it to disc further re-encode it/compress it with the create a disc's disc settings? Thanks for all your guys advice, I have learned quite a bit in this short time and have much more to learn, sometimes my question is simply, Why?

Scott
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Scott -

To be honest, I've been a bit lost at times in the convoluted process you've followed & the way you've described it... and no pictures! Screen shots show plenty that long paragraphs don't.

My understanding is that, if you use that produced file in a new project to burn to a disc, it will not need to be re-encoded if you select DVD HQ. It will not be further compressed as it already has the same resolution as an NTSC DVD. I'm happy to be corrected on this.

In DVD writing, there is some extra work in making the video files able to be decoded by the player. There is extra information on a DVD beyond the basic video file. Menus take up a fair whack of space too.

Cheers - Tony
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Solomon [Avatar]
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I don't believe my process to be convoluted in the least, but I do understand that you have been sometimes lost at my description of it. I do try to include as much detail as it has been recommended in looking for resolutions that details are key. Unfortunately my way of writing does not benefit you personally.

Maybe next time, if you choose to help, you could ask me questions or ask me too elaborate instead of assuming my meaning. And I will try to include "Just The Facts"

Good Day Sir,

Scott
Dafydd B [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 26, 2006 08:20 Messages: 11973 Offline
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Scott,
Take a look at the guide info and in particular PART F and E.

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/7958.page
Subject: PowerDirector - information we request and tasks to carry out.
PART A - name it
PART B - provide it
PART F - use them
PART E - an alternative
PART D - presentation is important

If you can include a screen shot it helps a all. I just wish more members would do so.

I think you're doing ok. None of use really mine being asked a question, just sometimes the answers take time to figure out how to present. Say guys, when you answer, remember to use an image...

Dafydd

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ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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like this one... posted when the question was first raised & remains, still, the answer to the question.

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Profile(2).jpg
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96 Kbytes
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1 time(s)

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vn800rider
Senior Contributor Location: Darwen, UK Joined: May 15, 2008 04:32 Messages: 1949 Offline
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What like this one? :-

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Solomon [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Feb 11, 2010 20:24 Messages: 12 Offline
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Yeah I like vn800rider pic, that would have been nice, glad someone has a sense of humour.Tony i can't open that screen shot, the original posting was deleted.

I assume it was a picture of your Custom Profile in Produce Mode, which was, still is and will forever be one step behind my question. Oh dear, these childish games do bring me back. Seriously Tony we are just on 2 different parallel levels never to join.

Take Care and good luck with all your future endeavors gents.

Scott
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