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If I upgrade to Windows 7 in order to take advantage of 64-bit........
Kmot
Contributor Location: Northridge, CA Joined: Apr 18, 2012 01:45 Messages: 432 Offline
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How would I be able to determine if my existing Windows XP 32-bit system could actually install a Windows 64-bit software upgrade?

I would like to take advantage of PD10 Ultra's 64-bit capability.

Also, would I just add another 4GB of RAM to my existing 4GB? ~Tom~
1Nina
Senior Contributor Location: Norway, 50km southwest of Oslo Joined: Oct 08, 2008 04:12 Messages: 1070 Offline
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Hi Kmot,

I am not the tech-person here, but to my knowledge, you cannot get 64 bit OS/software
to run on a 32 bit computer (with motherboard/processor 32 bit).

(However, you can have 32 bit software installed on a 64 bit pc.)

Some people here still run 32 bit XP.
Hang in there, maybe one of them will show up and advice you further.

Nina
Just something.
https://www.petitpoisvideo.com
Kmot
Contributor Location: Northridge, CA Joined: Apr 18, 2012 01:45 Messages: 432 Offline
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Ah, makes sense. Thank you Nina! ~Tom~
jerrys
Senior Contributor Location: New Britain, CT, USA (between New York and Boston) Joined: Feb 10, 2010 21:36 Messages: 1038 Offline
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As Nina said, the first thing you need to know is the capability of your machine. There were a lot of 64-bit machines sold with 32-bit versions of Windows. Looking at the properties of your computer might help you figure it out. There might even be a sticker on the case. Jerry Schwartz
Kmot
Contributor Location: Northridge, CA Joined: Apr 18, 2012 01:45 Messages: 432 Offline
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I looked at my 'System Info' and it is indeed a 32-bit version and it looks like I will always be a 32-bit user on this particular machine. ~Tom~
babindia
Senior Contributor Location: India Joined: Aug 16, 2007 06:11 Messages: 884 Offline
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Kmot
You an upgrade to 64 bit version of windows and then install 64 bit version softwares PC specs :
OS Windows 10.0 Pro
MB - AS rock Z77 extreme 11
Intel 3770K @ 4.0 Ghz OC
Gskill 32 GB RAM 1800 Mhz
6 TB HDD, SSD bootable
nVidia ASUS GTX 660 Ti
BenQ 22" LCD monitor 1920x1080

Kmot
Contributor Location: Northridge, CA Joined: Apr 18, 2012 01:45 Messages: 432 Offline
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Here is my DXDIAG info. What do you think?

 Filename
DxDiag.txt
[Disk]
 Description
 Filesize
52 Kbytes
 Downloaded:
262 time(s)
~Tom~
babindia
Senior Contributor Location: India Joined: Aug 16, 2007 06:11 Messages: 884 Offline
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Kmot
This is what your specs read,salient features
1. OS - Win XP - can address only upto 3GB RAM
2. You have a quad core AMD - Good ( 5 years old)
3. Graphics card nVidia GTS 250,1 GB - Good ( does not support DirectX 11)
4. Graphice driver latest - 296.10 and 301.24 (beta)
5. RAM - 3 GB - Not so good (for PD 64 bit HD editing)
6. DirectX - version 9c - Not so good (Windows 7 has directX 11 which helps PD)
7. HDD - free space,58.4 GB - Not so good
8. Monitor - Max resolution -1600x1200 - Good

Recommendation in the order of importance
1. Win 7 64 bit
2. HDD 500GB for PD HD
3. RAM - atleast 8GB
4. Graphics card - Any 400 series nVidia, supports DirectX 11.460 is good,I have used it.

If you can overclock your AMD to around 3 Ghz,Stable,you will see performance improvement.
For example: My AMD is Octal core 3.6 Ghz.It is overclocked to 4.8 Ghz with water cooling.

Advantages of directX 11 over 9c
Tessellation is implemented on the GPU to calculate a smoother curved surface resulting in more graphically detailed images, including more lifelike characters in the gaming worlds that you explore.
* Multi-Threading – The ability to scale across multi-core CPUs will enable developers to take greater advantage of the power within multi-core CPUs. This results in faster framerates for games, while still supporting the increased visual detailing.
* DirectCompute – Developers can utilize the power of discrete graphics cards to accelerate both gaming and non-gaming applications. This improves graphics, while also enabling players to accelerate everyday tasks, like video editing, on their Windows 7 PC.

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PC specs :
OS Windows 10.0 Pro
MB - AS rock Z77 extreme 11
Intel 3770K @ 4.0 Ghz OC
Gskill 32 GB RAM 1800 Mhz
6 TB HDD, SSD bootable
nVidia ASUS GTX 660 Ti
BenQ 22" LCD monitor 1920x1080

Kmot
Contributor Location: Northridge, CA Joined: Apr 18, 2012 01:45 Messages: 432 Offline
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Thank you Mr. Bab for the analysis!

FWIW, I actually have two Nvidia GTS250 cards linked via SLI. Still probably not good enough though.

I have an external HDD of 1.5TB but I intend to buy shortly an internal 2TB for use as my C-drive.

However, if some money falls from the sky I will just buy a fancy new multimedia machine! ~Tom~
babindia
Senior Contributor Location: India Joined: Aug 16, 2007 06:11 Messages: 884 Offline
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Kmot
Thank you. I would suggest to take one step at a time.Just because I have recommended it does not mean you should change everything in one stroke.
GTS 250 does not support directX 11. However I would not immediately switch my cards,given that you have 2 cards.
This would be my last priority.

If I were you this is what I would do
1. Install Windows 7
2. Increase RAM
3. Clean up my HDD.Remove "used very rarely" applications
4. Download and install PD,64 bit, trial version
5. See its performance in HD;editing,rendering

PS:Support for Windows XP will be withdrawn begining April 2014

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PC specs :
OS Windows 10.0 Pro
MB - AS rock Z77 extreme 11
Intel 3770K @ 4.0 Ghz OC
Gskill 32 GB RAM 1800 Mhz
6 TB HDD, SSD bootable
nVidia ASUS GTX 660 Ti
BenQ 22" LCD monitor 1920x1080

1Nina
Senior Contributor Location: Norway, 50km southwest of Oslo Joined: Oct 08, 2008 04:12 Messages: 1070 Offline
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Kmot, hi

I see that over night (my night) you have had some answers and help.
I’m wondering;
What are you editing / planning to edit ?
Full HD video (AVCHD 1920x1080 resolution) from a camcorder ?
Planning to burn dvd’s / bluerays for displaying on a TV monitor?
Upload to YouTube or other web sites?
The usual duration of your videos ?

Nina

Just something.
https://www.petitpoisvideo.com
babindia
Senior Contributor Location: India Joined: Aug 16, 2007 06:11 Messages: 884 Offline
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1Nina
Just a titbit I wish to share.
You said "I see that over night (my night) you have had some answers and help." which brought to my mind my college chemistry
Benzene was discovered by Kekule. He was foundering to understand its structure. He went to sleep. He dreamt of a snake coiled and biting its own tail. He got the answer to the structure of Benzene as a hexagon.

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PC specs :
OS Windows 10.0 Pro
MB - AS rock Z77 extreme 11
Intel 3770K @ 4.0 Ghz OC
Gskill 32 GB RAM 1800 Mhz
6 TB HDD, SSD bootable
nVidia ASUS GTX 660 Ti
BenQ 22" LCD monitor 1920x1080

Kmot
Contributor Location: Northridge, CA Joined: Apr 18, 2012 01:45 Messages: 432 Offline
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Hi Nina,

Yes, I typically edit 1080P HD video in H.264 format from a Panasonic camcorder. I also use a Casio that produces .AVI and a GoPro that produces .MP4 and now I have a new dSLR that shoots video and produces .MOV files.

I typically edit and produce short videos for uploading to Vimeo and Youtube. Usually under 10 minutes in duration. ~Tom~
1Nina
Senior Contributor Location: Norway, 50km southwest of Oslo Joined: Oct 08, 2008 04:12 Messages: 1070 Offline
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Kmot,

I am just wondering if you possibly could edit in a smaller format if you have
troubles with stutter, freeze, transitions….;
1280x720 ? .mp4? Could then, if so, conversion be an option ?
My main computer “only” has 6 GB RAM. It can handle AVCHD 1920x1080,
but to have a smooth edit + meet my need for how to display I usually settle
for a little less. On YT and Vimeo, I cannot see much difference (if any).

But, as you said; “ if some money falls from the sky….”


hilsen Nina
Just something.
https://www.petitpoisvideo.com
Kmot
Contributor Location: Northridge, CA Joined: Apr 18, 2012 01:45 Messages: 432 Offline
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Oh yes, I produce in all different sizes depending....

Interestingly, I have started producing smaller files for uploading because I have found out lots of people still do not have fast internet connections and they complain about it taking a long time to load and stream.

Sort of like 72 pixel being the largest file photograph for the internet, it seems 720P is about the ideal for video uploads as well.

Although, I am fortunate to have a blazing fast internet connection so I still enjoy the full HD videos myself.

I have had on occasion, freezing or blackout of the video when producing. Strangely, I can go back and re-edit and re-produce and get it to finish correctly. ~Tom~
garioch7
Senior Contributor Location: Port Hood, Nova Scotia, Canada Joined: Feb 07, 2011 06:45 Messages: 852 Offline
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Kmot: I concur with Jerry and Nina that you will need an x64 computer (CPU and motherboard) to be able to install Windows7 x64. The Windows7 installation routine will detect your hardware as 32-bit or 64-bit and install the appropriate version of Windows 7.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/64-bit-support

I have attached a link from the Windows website on this issue.

I am not a technical guru. Hopefully someone will correct me if I am incorrect in my interpretation about installing the 64-bit version of Windows.

Hope this helps. Have a great day.

Regards,
-Phil Windows 10 Pro x64
Dell XPS 8930
Intel CoreT i7 (4.6 GHz)
32 GB DDR4-2666 RAM
1 TB PCIe -x4 SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060
PD14 Ultimate x64, 4207
CD4 Ultra and AD6 Ultra
Bleeping Computer Malware Response Instructor
babindia
Senior Contributor Location: India Joined: Aug 16, 2007 06:11 Messages: 884 Offline
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Garioch7
Kmot' s PC is an AMD, quad core which is a 64 bit processor.

As suggested in my earlier posts his PC can take a 64 bit WIN 7

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PC specs :
OS Windows 10.0 Pro
MB - AS rock Z77 extreme 11
Intel 3770K @ 4.0 Ghz OC
Gskill 32 GB RAM 1800 Mhz
6 TB HDD, SSD bootable
nVidia ASUS GTX 660 Ti
BenQ 22" LCD monitor 1920x1080

Kmot
Contributor Location: Northridge, CA Joined: Apr 18, 2012 01:45 Messages: 432 Offline
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Yes, you are correct Bab! I just looked at the box my motherboard came in and it has 64 all over it! WooHoo!
[Thumb - 20120428_101903.jpg]
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[Disk]
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1332 Kbytes
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214 time(s)
~Tom~
garioch7
Senior Contributor Location: Port Hood, Nova Scotia, Canada Joined: Feb 07, 2011 06:45 Messages: 852 Offline
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Bab: Thanks for correcting me. I should turn on my brain before putting my mouth in gear!

I did some research and this is what I found:

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/phenom/Pages/AMD-phenom-processor-X4-X3-product-brief.aspx

Thanks again. I certainly did not want to mislead anyone. SORRY.

Have a great day.

Regards,
-Phil Windows 10 Pro x64
Dell XPS 8930
Intel CoreT i7 (4.6 GHz)
32 GB DDR4-2666 RAM
1 TB PCIe -x4 SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060
PD14 Ultimate x64, 4207
CD4 Ultra and AD6 Ultra
Bleeping Computer Malware Response Instructor
babindia
Senior Contributor Location: India Joined: Aug 16, 2007 06:11 Messages: 884 Offline
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Kmot

Your processor is 5 years old and can take a DDR 2 memory only. I am not sure if you can upgrade as DDR 2 memory may be not available easily.
Check you motherboard specs and see what is the maximum memory it can take ie., 4 GB,6 GB so on
Or if you provide you motherboard name and model I check for you PC specs :
OS Windows 10.0 Pro
MB - AS rock Z77 extreme 11
Intel 3770K @ 4.0 Ghz OC
Gskill 32 GB RAM 1800 Mhz
6 TB HDD, SSD bootable
nVidia ASUS GTX 660 Ti
BenQ 22" LCD monitor 1920x1080

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