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I'm going to keep rolling drivers back with reboot/clean install until I find the last good version...

which is 347.25!

Quote: I am more concerned about indoor performance, and it's pretty clear the FDR-AX33 is not good for that...

and here's a Samsung NX1 clip with one 23W light bulb = 100W regular light bulb at 5000K. indoors. my video editing room.

* Samsung NX1, f16-50mm @20mm F3.5-5.6 kit lens, HEVC H.265 3840x2160 30p HQ @50Mb/sec, Auto White Balance, ISO auto @4000.


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Pepsiman,

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I'm going to keep rolling drivers back with reboot/clean install until I find the last good version...

which is 347.25!

Actually, it isn't. I tested all the versions from 347.25 to the latest, and here were the results :

347.25 OK

347.52 OK

347.88 OK

350.12 Production unsuccessful

352.86 OK

353.06 OK . Edit : this started getting "production unsucessful" too . So no go.

353.3 OK . Edit: well, it was OK the first time I tried it. Second time, I got the GPU out of memory error - but early on. So don't settle for this one.

353.62 GPU out of memory after 9 minutes !

355.6 Audio only

355.82 Audio only

For now, I'm settling on 347.88 ...


So, the "audio only" issue seems to be a problem only with the latest 355.x drivers . But there were other issues before, too ... MSI X99A Raider
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well, it's a good thing that now yours works.

i've uploaded a sample NX1 indoor clip.

NX1 gets really hot even though i've been recording 5 minute footages...



PepsiMan

p.s.

me, too. i've changed cpu from FX8350 125W to FX8370E 95W for editing videos.

high electric bill sucks! 'no bridge too far'

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Quote: well, it's a good thing that now yours works.

i've uploaded a sample NX1 indoor clip.

NX1 gets really hot even though i've been recording 5 minute footages...

Thanks, that looks good. But heat is worrisome. Have you ever recorded the full 30 minutes in 4K on your NX1 ?

Did it hold up ? And were you able to restart the recording immediately after that, or did you have to wait for it to cool down ?

I usually want to record myself playing a few hours in a row, and then look at it and take the best parts later. This is why even the 30 minute limit bothers me. It's not that I am going to have hours of good material, usually it's just a few minutes unfortunately, sometimes nothing usable at all.

But when I do get something good, for editing purposes, it's much easier for me to have one very large file, or a small number of very large files, because I'm also recording the audio separately, and sometimes with multiple cameras too.

The audio is always one single WAV file - the recorder is in another room actually, and I never stop it until I'm completely done performing all my takes.

PD does the sync based on audio automatically. But if each camera is split into many files, and there are "holes", it's not seamless, and the sync feature in PD ends up creating many, many extra video tracks, one for each clip. It's not able to properly group and space them and keep all the clips on one track with the right spacing ...

me, too. i've changed cpu from FX8350 125W to FX8370E 95W for editing videos.

high electric bill sucks!

I have solar panels to deal with the electric bills (not just from the computer, but the big house, hot tub & electric car). I get billed on an annual cycle. Most years I get a net $0 bill.

The last time I was experimenting with the OC, it was in the winter time, when there isn't much sun, near the end of my billing cycle. That year, I had to pay a few hundred because of it. I think if I didn't do that OC experimenting, I would have owed nothing.

Are you overclocking your FX-8370E ? MSI X99A Raider
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Lots of patience on those driver tests

I have similar experience. 352.63 is the first driver avail for GTX960 and Windows 10 (and I have that in my editing PC) but on the other hand is first that is not working perfectly stable for my other two Fermi cards.

Actually I have two more machines using Fermi (QuadroFX 1800 a Dell laptop) and Kepler (GT730 on the daughter PC) and I might roll those back too because of veird things under Windows 10.

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Lots of patience on those driver tests

I have similar experience. 352.63 is the first driver avail for GTX960 and Windows 10 (and I have that in my editing PC) but on the other hand is first that is not working perfectly stable for my other two Fermi cards.

Actually I have two more machines using Fermi (QuadroFX 1800 a Dell laptop) and Kepler (GT730 on the daughter PC) and I might roll those back too because of veird things under Windows 10.

Sigh.

I didn't like Windows 10 and reimaged my secondary PC back to what it was in May in Win7, before I downloaded the first Win10 preview. I didn't hate it like Win 8/8.1, but still didn't see any benefit to it over Win 7. The thing just looks so much worse on a desktop with Aero gone. And the UI makes less sense than before.

My primary PC is still on Win7 too, as are the two HTPCs. At this rate, they will probably all stay on it until MS stops putting out security patches.

I was thinking about getting an nVidia GTX960 or maybe GTX 950 . But I guess I will hold off, due to these nVidia/PowerDirector driver issues.

I am really upset with all these things that are sold these days that simply don't t work ! Just in the last few weeks.

1) this PD13/PD14 - nVidia bug - who knows whose fault it really is .

I'm simply not going to buy any other nVidia card until the bug is fixed, and I may return PD14 also until they sort it out.

2) A PNY 128GB sold as a UHS-1 / U3 card that is not recognized as a U3 card in my Sony FDR-AX33 camera
Don't buy this card, false advertising !

http://www.amazon.com/PNY-Elite-Performance-Speed-P-SDX128U395-GE/dp/B00WWBCQEI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1442835004&sr=8-1&keywords=pny+128GB+uhs-1+u3

This card is going back to Amazon.

3) A UHS-II card reader that is very fast, but overheats badly, and corrupts the data even on known good cards, in h2testw tests

http://www.amazon.com/WEme-Reader-Support-UHS-II-Transfer/dp/B00QLFAYTA/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1442835037&sr=8-5&keywords=uhs-ii+reader

Don't buy this reader. It's also going back to Amazon.

4) another SD card that turned out to be a fake a few months ago - only the first 8GB out of 128GB were actually readable .

This one I succeeded in getting the listing removed from Amazon altogether.

5) Sony FDR-AX33 camcorder which is 4K/30p . It works, but doesn't have a better picture than my 7 year old Canon HG21 HD camcorder. And the ergonomics are much worse - touch screen, which I hate, and only Wifi remote instead of IR remote. This is likely going back too.

I did find cards that worked at U3 :

The SD card story did have a happy ending :

http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-Professional-1000x-UHS-II-LSD128CRBNA10002/dp/B00SANIGF0/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1442835512&sr=8-5&keywords=lexar+uhs-ii+card

Those are keepers. I only bought them because of the Sony FDR-AX33, which I may still return. But I will probably keep these SD cards to use with my other cameras. The high read speed still saves time.

Now, I just need to find a proper UHS-II reader that doesn't overheat to get the full speed without overheating and errors. MSI X99A Raider
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Thanks, that looks good. But heat is worrisome. Have you ever recorded the full 30 minutes in 4K on your NX1 ?

Did it hold up ? And were you able to restart the recording immediately after that, or did you have to wait for it to cool down ?

i bought the NX1 through PayPal credit and two equal payments to go yet so i didn't want to burn the 28MP CMOS.

just like your Note 4, i used Note 3 and recorded the Loneliest Road in America US Route 50. about 256GB 4K footage.

Note 3 is semi-retired because of the extreme heat. now when it gets really hot, sreen and or video gets jellow-ish.



if i hit a mega Lotto then this is what i'll do. i'll buy 5 - NX1 and record 29.99 minutes on each camera to have them cool down

for the recording session. how's that?

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PepsiMan,

Just looked at your footage - I agree it's beautiful and quite sharp...

kit lens that came with the camera is sharp as $1299 F2.0-2.8 lens.

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Are you overclocking your FX-8370E ?

No, i'm afraid not.

my ASROCK motherboard wouldn't lets me OC!!! if i OC then it crashes! period. probably need better cooling yada yada...

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2) A PNY 128GB sold as a UHS-1 / U3 card that is not recognized as a U3 card in my Sony FDR-AX33 camera Don't buy this card, false advertising ! ...

i use this Samsung EVO 64GB in my NX1 and no problems what so ever except needing more of it...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9749870&CatId=380



Samsung NX1 with kit lens 4K is Awesome!

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FYI, I have filed a case with Cyberlink, bug CS001514573 about this "audio-only" problem on nVidia drivers 355.82 .

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nVidia just released v355.98

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And this morning UPDATE NVIDIA 355.98



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I read the release notes for 355.98 but did not see anything relevant, so not holding my hopes up.

Still, I just downloaded and installed the 355.98 driver .
Strangely, the rendering for my test case took much longer than before - about 6.5 minutes instead of 4.5 with 347.88 .

Unfortunately, as I feared, the problem is still the same with 355.98 - the rendered M2TS file is still audio-only.
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FYI, even with driver 347.88, I have still experienced the problem with "running out of GPU memory" and "production unsuccessful". This happened after using PowerDVD 14 to play some 4K videos I had rendered with PowerDirector.

The strange thing is that the problem still showed up when I tried with the software encoder too. I don't know why the nVidia driver code path would even be involved. I tried to disable hardware decoding too - to no avail.

A reboot fixed the issue, however, unlike with the newer nVidia drivers.

It's likely there is a memory leak somewhere involved, between PowerDirector, PowerDVD, and the nVidia drivers.

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FYI, Cyberlink reproduce this problem on 9/30 . No update on any fix since.
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So, I just installed the latest PD14 beta patch version 2130, as well as the latest nVidia driver 355.98 .

Using my test case, rendering to M2TS AVC 4K, I was able to produce a file that had both audio and video, using the hardware encoder. So, there is progress, I think ....

Unfortunately, the rendering took about 9 minutes, which is really excessive for a 37 second 4K clip.

I didn't take note of how long it was previously with the old drivers and original PD14 version when the rendering was succeeding.

However, with the latest PD14 patch, a software encode is only 4 minutes and 20 seconds, so something is definitely still wrong with hardware encode. The hardware encoder slows things down greatly with my project for some reason.

I'm going to revert the nVidia driver version once more, and try the rendering again. MSI X99A Raider
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So, after reverting to driver 347.88, the hardware rendering time is down to 4:19 . Basically, the hardware encoding does not perform any better than software for this project. But at least it isn't twice as longthan software, as it is with driver 355.98.

So, there is still a serious performance problem between PD14 latest patch, and nVidia drivers 355.98 .

Maybe this needs to be filed as a separate case with Cyberlink, since the file is now technically produced correctly with video regardless of the driver version ...

Guess that's one issue down, and one more to file.
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