Pixilated DVDs

BroDon316

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Jul 04, 2013 11:43

Hi Carl,

I found a setting in Edit-Preferences-General where I did had it set to PAL 25. I had read somewhere that since all my clips are at 24fps, it was better to use the PAL setting of 25.

I reset it to NTSC-30 and remade the DVD in PD11, no folder, enable hardware decoding on a Falcon blank DVD-R, write speed of 3.0.

For information, previously I had set in Produce-Country/Format of disc to NTSC when I made the video file AVC1920x1080/24p 16Mbps. The settings in APE11 for DVD creation was NTSC.

The PD11 DVD with the new setting in Edit-Preferences-General WORKED! It had no pixilation and the TV DVD player opened it just fine!

Thank you one and all!

NEW QUESTIONS:
1) what penalty did this setting cause when using 24fps clips in the final DVD?

2) what are the best settings througout with the 24fps clips?

3) How do we handle it when we have clips of different fps in the same project? Say a mix of 60-30-24-25. PD 11 Ult Suite PD11.2812,
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BroDon316

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Jul 04, 2013 11:48

Thanks Carl,

That Toshiba player handles DVD-R discs

See status report above that I finally got the PD11 DVD to play per your suggestion to check the NTSC settings in the Project Preferences. But that leaves me questions on how to handle 24fps in PD11, and even if PD11 is the program I should be using.

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Cap'n Kevin

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Jul 04, 2013 12:04

This might be of help.

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/26463.page#144137

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BroDon316

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Jul 04, 2013 12:20

Thanks Capt'n Kevin,

I found the same answer a few days ago, burn to file and use that file to make DVD in Adobe Premier Elements 11. Since then I disocvered the problem for me was in the Project - Edit - Preferences - General setting to match my NTSC DVD players. PD 11 Ult Suite PD11.2812,
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BroDon316

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Jul 04, 2013 13:03

The DVD made from PD11 with the preferences set at NTSC 30 looks and sounds just like the ADP11 DVD made from a PD11 produced file. So no pixilation and both run on the old TV DVD player. Both appear to be of the same video quality when the DVDs are played on the TV DVD player

But both seem to have an echo added to the audio that is not heard in the origional clips in PD11 edit mode.

I assume that PD11 is adding the echo somewhere.

I would prefer not to have the added echo sound. Does anyone have any ideas on this?

QUESTION: When I play it back on my old computer with CL PowerDVD7, the sound is like on the clips - no echo. It is only 2 channel. So I suspect the Dolby Surround sound feature. Any idea on how to turn this off so result DVD is only 2 channel if I want it?

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Carl312

Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline

Jul 04, 2013 13:19

Quote: Hi Carl,

I found a setting in Edit-Preferences-General where I did had it set to PAL 25. I had read somewhere that since all my clips are at 24fps, it was better to use the PAL setting of 25.

I reset it to NTSC-30 and remade the DVD in PD11, no folder, enable hardware decoding on a Falcon blank DVD-R, write speed of 3.0.

For information, previously I had set in Produce-Country/Format of disc to NTSC when I made the video file AVC1920x1080/24p 16Mbps. The settings in APE11 for DVD creation was NTSC.

The PD11 DVD with the new setting in Edit-Preferences-General WORKED! It had no pixilation and the TV DVD player opened it just fine!

Thank you one and all!

NEW QUESTIONS:
1) what penalty did this setting cause when using 24fps clips in the final DVD?

2) what are the best settings througout with the 24fps clips?

3) How do we handle it when we have clips of different fps in the same project? Say a mix of 60-30-24-25.

Answer to Q1: Very little, PD does have to make up the 6 frames to change the rate from 24 fps to 30 fps.

Q2: Powerdirector 11 has a AVC profile of 1920x1080/24p (16 Mbps) in the produce module. You can produce to the same format.

Q3: Clips of mixed formats will have to be rendered to the one output format you choose. I find there is little consequence of producing mixed videos to one good profile.

The Setting in Edit-Preferences-General is what sets the output format for creating Disks in the Create Disk Module.
With your setting of PAL, you were making PAL DVDs which your American DVD player was rejecting.

Which is the reason for my question of what country. USA and Canada is NTSC, many European countries are PAL.

Glad you got your problem solved!
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BroDon316

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Jul 04, 2013 14:14

Hi Carl,

I did go to the Edit-Preferences, General and found TV Format. And yes, it was set to PAL. So I changed it to NTSC 30 fps.
As soon as I did, I got a notice that the imported files are 23.97 and does not match the project setting of 29.97.

I had read somewhere in the forum that since I was using 24fps, it was better to set it to PAL 25 rather than NTSC 30. Is this the setting you are mentioning?

I will make a DVD now, with this revised project setting and see what the results are. It will be with enhanced machine, no folder, speed of 3.0. If it is not good, I will reset to no enhanced and with folder. PD 11 Ult Suite PD11.2812,
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Carl312

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Jul 04, 2013 16:56

Quote: Hi Carl,

I did go to the Edit-Preferences, General and found TV Format. And yes, it was set to PAL. So I changed it to NTSC 30 fps.
As soon as I did, I got a notice that the imported files are 23.97 and does not match the project setting of 29.97.

That is just a warning and can be turned off in Preferences. The correct setting even with 24p video is NTSC (30 fps) to create a DVD that plays in American DVD Players.

If you set your camera to 30 or 60 fps you would not be getting problems producing 30 fps videos or DVDs that play on standard American DVD players.
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BroDon316

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Jul 04, 2013 18:32

Thanks Carl,

The setting for 24fps was intentional, all the problems with PD11 were not. My goal is to produce 24fps videos just like the 24 fps movies that play on my DVD players.

Are you suggesting that PD11 is not good for this purpose? If not, what do you suggest I use?

What I am glad of is that this discussion can be a resource for anyone with the same issues. I am eager to see what other chasms I will have to negotiate.

I really do like the subtitle feature in PD11, and so I will stick with it if I can.

Again, thank you to all who helped.

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Carl312

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Jul 05, 2013 14:23

Currently Powerdirector is not great with 24 fps movies, It can produce them but not as a DVD.

Maybe in PD 12 :

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BroDon316

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Jul 05, 2013 14:42

Thanks Carl

Do you have any recommendations? PD 11 Ult Suite PD11.2812,
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