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Video encoding issue within PowerDirector
Dafydd B [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 26, 2006 08:20 Messages: 11973 Offline
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Alice,
You've pulled sections out and quoted me twice and now you're questioning my opinion against your statement of intent. I'll remind you of your question: "What's wrong with 1440x1080 ? " I was giving you my opinion, an answer to that question.

On this forum editors who mix 1440x1080 with 1920x1080 have reported problems. That would be the case with any video editing software where a mixed frame size is being edited.

1920 = the full width of a HD frame
1440 = a squashed framed video which has to be stretched by a Tv to full screen to 1920. Also stretched by a video editor.

The 1440 frame is not ideal, just a space saving formula adopted by some camera manufacturers.

When a 1440 width video is edited and output to 1920, the PC and software has to stretch every frame to full resolution 1920. The PC has to work harder and uses all the resources - more likely to cause editing/rendering problems.

I would not contemplate using 1440 as a capture or rendering format.

Just my opinion, others may disagree.


If you quote me, provide the full contents of what I wrote and not piecemeal sections pulled to suit!



ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Here's an article that explains the 1440x1080 profile fairly simply... http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/columns/2008/05/home-theater-concepts-is-a-1440x1080-hd-camcorder-inferior-to-a-1920x1080-hd-camcorder.php

My Canon shoots in 1440x1080 - though I typically record in 1920x1080. Like TwinCityBulldog, I don't have difficulties with it in PD (when I do shoot in that resolution). It displays correctly as 16:9 during editing & in the produced files.

Some users have had problems uploading to Vimeo & YouTube using that profile. Vimeo, I understand, can't handle non-square pixels.

Here's a 1440x1080 video on YouTube, shot & produced in the same profile... in PD! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVnmw5jXjoA&feature=related

... but sometimes they don't get it right... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4wC98a5wC4&feature=related

Cheers - Tony
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AliceM [Avatar]
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Quote: Here's an article that explains the 1440x1080 profile fairly simply... http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/columns/2008/05/home-theater-concepts-is-a-1440x1080-hd-camcorder-inferior-to-a-1920x1080-hd-camcorder.php
My Canon shoots in 1440x1080 - though I typically record in 1920x1080. Like TwinCityBulldog, I don't have difficulties with it in PD (when I do shoot in that resolution). It displays correctly as 16:9 during editing & in the produced files.
Some users have had problems uploading to Vimeo & YouTube using that profile. Vimeo, I understand, can't handle non-square pixels.
Here's a 1440x1080 video on YouTube, shot & produced in the same profile... in PD! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVnmw5jXjoA&feature=related
... but sometimes they don't get it right... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4wC98a5wC4&feature=related
Cheers - Tony

Thanks for the links...

But back on-topic, do you have any idea what could cause the video encoding issue ? I'm beautiful in my way 'cause God makes no mistakes, I'm on the right track baby, I was BORN THIS WAY !
AliceM [Avatar]
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I've contacted the support team 3 days ago and they've sent me a message yesterday telling me that they still haven't figured it out...damn, must be really serious !

I guess I'll have no choice but to try a different format...if I convert my project to .WMV, will that degrade quality ? From H.264 to .WMV the compression is going to be pretty intense...

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ynotfish
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Hi Alice -

Not that I'm any kind of whizz on matters technical, but I honestly can't see anything in your DxDiag that looks like it should cause a problem. I've never had those error messages myself, nor read about them in the forums (that I can remember). I wish I could help you with an answer, but I'm at a loss too.

Quite obviously, there's nothing wrong with the clips from your camera... as they've been produced by others in the format/profile you selected.

So - it's a problem with your PD on your PC. There's something tangled up in there that's way beyond my comprehension.

Have you tried producing to MPEG-2 BD 1440x1080? Is that the profile you selected before when you tried MPEG-2?

If it was my PD giving me that sort of grief, I'd give it the flick with a TOTAL uninstall (using Revo or similar to clear the registry) - then re-install... after which I'd update QuickTime whether it needed it or not. Others may scoff at this suggestion, but your problem is very odd (obviously Tech Support is struggling with it too).

Cheers - Tony

EDIT: You're right. WMV compression may not suit you. AND, in any case, you shouldn't be limited to that because PD isn't happy.

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AliceM [Avatar]
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Quote: Hi Alice -

Not that I'm any kind of whizz on matters technical, but I honestly can't see anything in your DxDiag that looks like it should cause a problem. I've never had those error messages myself, nor read about them in the forums (that I can remember). I wish I could help you with an answer, but I'm at a loss too.

Quite obviously, there's nothing wrong with the clips from your camera... as they've been produced by others in the format/profile you selected.

So - it's a problem with your PD on your PC. There's something tangled up in there that's way beyond my comprehension.

Have you tried producing to MPEG-2 BD 1440x1080? Is that the profile you selected before when you tried MPEG-2?

If it was my PD giving me that sort of grief, I'd give it the flick with a TOTAL uninstall (using Revo or similar to clear the registry) - then re-install... after which I'd update QuickTime whether it needed it or not. Others may scoff at this suggestion, but your problem is very odd (obviously Tech Support is struggling with it too).

Cheers - Tony

EDIT: You're right. WMV compression may not suit you. AND, in any case, you shouldn't be limited to that because PD isn't happy.

Thanks for the advice Tony...

I will try uninstalling completely ! I'm beautiful in my way 'cause God makes no mistakes, I'm on the right track baby, I was BORN THIS WAY !
AliceM [Avatar]
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So I reinstalled PD9, haven't tried producing any clips yet, but I do get the following error each time I start the program: "Cyberlink CLQTKernelClient32 has stopped working and must now close"

What the heck does that mean ? I'm beautiful in my way 'cause God makes no mistakes, I'm on the right track baby, I was BORN THIS WAY !
Dafydd B [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 26, 2006 08:20 Messages: 11973 Offline
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You have a problem with the QuickTime connection to PD.

1. Uninstall QuickTime from your PC
2. Uninstall and USE the CL Cleaner tools located here: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/15688.page
3. re-install PD9



AliceM [Avatar]
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I actually just un-installed QuickTime and everything works PERFECTLY, hurray !!!

I converted my project to H.264 without any issues whatsoever !

YAY I'm beautiful in my way 'cause God makes no mistakes, I'm on the right track baby, I was BORN THIS WAY !
Dafydd B [Avatar]
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Quote: I actually just un-installed QuickTime and everything works PERFECTLY, hurray !!!

I converted my project to H.264 without any issues whatsoever !

YAY


Was that following my instructions? PD9 requires QuickTime to be installed!

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AliceM [Avatar]
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Quote:
Was that following my instructions? PD9 requires QuickTime to be installed!

Seems to work perfectly without it ! I'm beautiful in my way 'cause God makes no mistakes, I'm on the right track baby, I was BORN THIS WAY !
Dafydd B [Avatar]
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That's because you're currently not using the programs full capabilities. Later you may get Component Activation messages and there will be no assistance.

best of luck.

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