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I burnt a dvd of a wedding - 2 hours long a few days ago - worked first time!
I could only get it onto a single dvd using "standard quality".
Today I finished editing the 70 minute version, with transitions etc.
So far I've used 4 dvd's from the same spindle and each one failed with the orange bar at 28%.
I have 2 Lite-on dvd burners - so that's 2 coasters from each.
The only difference is that this time I opted for "smartburn", for a better quality finish (still too big for Best Quality).
Last week I installed PD8 Ultimate and after the 2nd burn failure I downloaded & applied the PD8U updates.
I've got oodles of disk space, XP, and 2Gb memory.
Not expecting instant answers/suggestions so will try the StdQ option in case there is a prob with source file - if so I expect fall-out at the 28% marker!
TIA.
Ray
Diolch
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ps The Standard output stopped at 28% too.... What should I look for? Diolch
Dafydd B [Avatar]
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Shw mae,

28% umm.

1. Please ensure you have installed the latest patch:
http://www.cyberlink.com/downloads/support/powerdirector/patches_en_US.html

2. Consider burn to folder instead of to Creat Disc.
a) to check the creative and render process
b) to split the actual create disc function.
c) you can then use a disc writing software and write the Video TS and Audio TS folders onto the DVD.

3. the 28% point might indicate a corrupt file is present - You can isolate the corrupted part by splitting your project. Duplicate the pds a number of times and retain the original. Working on the copies you can remove and reduce in size the contents of the project to smaller chunks.
Note: the aim is to reduce, render to an mpeg and then return the video back to the timeline where you'd bring the parts back together for final completion. I hope I've written that ok.
Note2: Use File > Save project as, to create additional pds file.

4. Clear out your temporary files - you may simply need to do that.

Dafydd
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Andrew - Wales, UK
Contributor Location: Wales, UK Joined: Jan 27, 2009 19:16 Messages: 545 Offline
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Hi,

Have you thought of buying 8.5gb dual layer DVDs? They will hold approximately 2 hours of high quality footage.

Cheers,

Andrew Alienware Aurora ALX R4 - Intel i7-4820 4.2 GHz - 32GB DDR3 RAM - Crucial 512GB SSD - 1TB Seagate HDD - 3TB WD Green HDD - 4TB WD Green HDD - MSI NVIDIA GTX 1070 8GB

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Dafydd B [Avatar]
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The forum is having some technical difficulties due to a server issue. Ray, please upload your avatar again.

Dafydd
SeptimusFry
Senior Member Location: Brittany, France Joined: Feb 02, 2008 12:43 Messages: 243 Offline
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Quote: I burnt a dvd of a wedding .....

Hi Ray,

I had a similar problem when I first got PDR6. To cut a long story short, I now always create a dvd folder (when you get to BURN, turn off 'burn to disc' and instead 'create a folder' (which must be empty) then use your burner to burn the image.

This doesnt rely on perfect DVD, so can't fail, and if you later burn your DVD, and the DVD is a dud, you lose just a few minutes.

Good luck. i7 980x; W7 Pro; 12GB; Nvidia GTX 285; 2x300G Velociraptors in Raid 0; 2x1.5TB Barracuda in Raid 1; 2TB WD Studio Ed.II (eSATA); NEC SpectraView Reference 2690 + MultiSync EA232
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Already did step 1 yesterday, also 28% equated to 19min 56sec, but the segment was the longest - went from 12mins to 23 mins - I had only adjusted white balance, come to think of it, that was after I ouput the "uncut" original a few days ago.

I assume to write to a folder, I use the Produce tab and go for MPEG4 for best quality & compression - I hope it fits into 4.7 GB for next stage (got 240GB spare on my HDD), but at least I can halt coaster production for the moment.

Thanks for the advice, will give feedback either way.

ttfn
Ray

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Diolch
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Quote: Already did step 1 yesterday, also 28% equated to 19min 56sec, but the segment was the longest - went from 12mins to 23 mins - I had only adjusted white balance, come to think of it, that was after I ouput the "uncut" original a few days ago.

I assume to write to a folder, I use the Produce tab and go for MPEG4 for best quality & compression - I hope it fits into 4.7 GB for next stage (got 240GB spare on my HDD), but at least I can halt coaster production for the moment.

Thanks for the advice, will give feedback either way.

ttfn
Ray


Ray,

Follow what Denbigh and I have suggested please.

Produce = Mpeg2 and NOT anything else. You are producing a DVD correct? mpeg2 = vob = DVD.

Dafydd
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Already underway, but I've aborted now & gone back to the Create Disk option - I'd not noticed that one of the options was Not to Create Disk.
I'm not into the jargon.. what's a "vob"?

My DL blanks arrived yesterday, but even I would not want to sit through a 2 hour home movie - even if it is my son's wedding (if you tell the wife, I'll deny everything!).

Ray Diolch
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Quote: Already underway, but I've aborted now & gone back to the Create Disk option - I'd not noticed that one of the options was Not to Create Disk.
I'm not into the jargon.. what's a "vob"?

My DL blanks arrived yesterday, but even I would not want to sit through a 2 hour home movie - even if it is my son's wedding (if you tell the wife, I'll deny everything!).

Ray


Ok, Open and explore a DVD or the folder you're about to create.

Look at the video file extensions in a DVD and you'll see they are *.vob

Yep, that's all.

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Dafydd B [Avatar]
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My DL blanks arrived yesterday, but even I would not want to sit through a 2 hour home movie - even if it is my son's wedding (if you tell the wife, I'll deny everything!).


Suggest you apply the Speed option in PD8... Try and "soup" the time up a bit and do it as a mock DVD. Might earn you a thick ear but would be fun. Remember to go ultra fast you have to render after each maximum speed bit you do.

Watch out for rolling pins!

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I tried that, upped it by 20% for a couple of "stuttering speaches" - but the sound & image went out of sync for more than just the current segment - at least UNDO works.

I may try again but I need to baseline this project first, don't want to risk anything after the hours already invested.

This reminds me..... I have 3 original tapes captured.
For the first tape I "split audio", for the others I did not.

The sound plays all the way through, even though there are now maybe 40 segments. Mostly the audio "squiggles" bar looks fine whether it is in he video track or audio, BUT the first segment of "tape2" sound is blank (i.e. squiggle-free).
Left alone it still works/sound fine, but when I applied the "+20%" speed option, it is as though the audio track jumped forward to the next segment - nightmare! The Father has the Best Mans speech, The comedy act, the Best man, and the Soloist, the gags
....... when I worked for Fujitsu, we's have called it a "special feature" - but I suspect something is awry. (but like I said UNDO worked).
Ray
Diolch
Bob in Tucson
Member Location: Milwaukee, Denver, Tucson Joined: May 30, 2008 18:11 Messages: 133 Offline
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Hello,
Coaster reduction - buy a couple of Rewritable DVD's (DVD-RW)

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Well, writing to a folder certainly saves coasters, but for me it now halts on 24%. After the first attempt I ran a disk cleanup utility - but it still failed on 24%. No time for more attempts now but it occurred to me that the time elapsed and time remaining clocks displayed during burning would be usefully accompanied (or replaced) by "last frame processed" - don't you think?

The clocks do not stop running when the process hangs - so they are of little use unless everything is working properly, and you won't know that is true until the end. the "Last Frame" would be much more use, IMO.

Just a thought.
Ray Diolch
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You can not pinpoint the issue BUT you can give more detail of content and provide a visual image as well as a diagnostic of your set up. Please note that 3 (x100kb) images/files can be attached to your reply.

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/7958.page
Subject: PowerDirector - information we request and tasks to carry out.
PART A - name it
PART B - provide it
PART F - use them
PART E - an alternative
PART D - presentation is important

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James W
Senior Contributor Location: Lakeland, FL USA Joined: Aug 18, 2008 10:36 Messages: 911 Offline
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It sounds like you have a corrupted file. The first thing I would do is to pack your project and save it to another location. This will save all the required video and other files associated with your porject someplace else so you do not mess up with what you currently have.

Now, using your original project folder open the pds file and try to produce your video again. This time watch the preview window to watch where it hangs to find out what clip is causing the problem. Once you've isolated the problem area I would delete everything after the point of the problem including the problomatic video and produce your video up to that point. Save this a Part 1. Now, close PD and reopen the original pds file again and try to produce only the area that causes the problem and there after. Maybe you will be able to produce this portion. If you can you can save it as Part 2 and recombine parts 1 and 2 later. If this fails, you can delete the problematic clip and produce the remaining clips that work.

Ultimately I suspect that you will have to reimport the clip that is causing the problem if the indeed the file is corrupt. You can test this by starting a new project and only using the suspect clip. Check if you can produce a file with this clip by itself.

I hope this helps.

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Q9300 2.5 GHz
4 GB Ram
Nvidia 9800 GT
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I finally nailed it to a "reverse video" segment of 1.2 seconds. At least I'll sleep now. I've tried to "produce" to various formats also render it to dvd, in the hope I could then "pull it back" into my final cut - but PD8U, with all its updates/fixes is having none of it. Any suggestions welcome.
I used the piece to extend a 1.5 second shot into almost 3 seconds - so less likely to be missed - but the viewer jerks and jumps at that point when I play it back - so I was going on faith that it would come out right on the rendered dvd. I'll check the forum before I cut it - in case someone can put me on track - else I'll chop the segment and move on.

TIA
Ray Diolch
James W
Senior Contributor Location: Lakeland, FL USA Joined: Aug 18, 2008 10:36 Messages: 911 Offline
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Take the clip you want in slow motion and render that segment separately. If successful, insert that clip into your main project and delete the portion you were originally trying to slow down. Produce this as your final project. Q9300 2.5 GHz
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Nvidia 9800 GT
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Hi James,
That's exactly what I tried (well one of them) - the forward play (original) worked fine, but the 1.5 seconds of reversed video would not render. I'll get the metaphorical scissors out this evening and remove the special effect, but thanks or the feedback.
R Diolch
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