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Paul82 [Avatar]
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Hi guys,

I'm using a pretty old PC to edit with PD18 and I'm really tired of how sluggish the editing process is. I'm not talking about the render times, which I can stomach, I'm talking about the editing itself - with my machine, pretty much any action requires a little pause. So I'm looking for a new machine, something that would make editing with PD18 really snappy and I've been eyeing one of the cheaper Dell Precision workstations. The specs are below. Can you tell me if PF18 would really benefit from such a machine, and in particular would it take an advantage of an NVIDIA Quatro GPU? Alternatively, can I get something better inside $2000?

Dell Precision specs:
CPU: Intel Core i7-8700 @ 3.20 GHz to 4.60 GHz
RAM: 16 GB DIMM DDR4 @ 2666 MHz
GPU: NVIDIA Quadro P620 + Intel UHD Graphics 630

Current PC specs:
CPU: Intel Core i5 4670K @ 3.40GHz
RAM: 16GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz
MB: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z87-C (SOCKET 1150)
GPU: 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770
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PepsiMan
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if you know how to use screwdriver then there is a ton of howtos on assembling a pc on YouTube.

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Current PC specs:
CPU: Intel Core i5 4670K @ 3.40GHz
RAM: 16GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz
MB: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z87-C (SOCKET 1150)
GPU: 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770


to upgrade from current setup: total upgrade $1565.00(reuse old case & optical drive).

motherboard - Asrock X570 Motherboards priced from $169.99 to $239.99
cpu - AMD Ryzen 9 3900X price $492.99
memory- Corsair 3200MHZ 16GB to 32GB price $79.99 to $119.99
gpu - MSI GTX 1660Ti 6G or 1650Ti 4G priced from $155.00 to $279.99
ssd - Samsung 860 EVO priced from $76.00 to $139.99
or m2 - Samsung 970 EVO 500GB - 1TB priced from $99.99 to $179.99

power supply - Corsair CX series 450W $69.94 or Corsair CX series 550W $74.99.
cpu cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO price $34.99

there, you still have some money left over to have a t-bone steak dinner with the red wine!

i would like to volunteer and help you out. send me 2G and i'll ship you the above spec pc to you.
of course you wouldn't have the steak dinner with red wine but i will... ^^

p.s.
oops, just found out where Paul is from. so this offer good for lower 48 states(US of A)... wink

oh happy happy joy joy

PepsiMan
'garbage in garbage out'

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StevenG [Avatar]
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There are always two questions to answer when looking to upgrade your hardware:

1) What is your budget? You can spend $500 and you can spend $2000. Both get you computers that will edit video adequately. Do you want a Hyundai or a Cadillac?

2) What is your video source? If you're editing HD video from an AVCHD camcorder or a phone, you have different needs than if you're editing 4K video from a drone. So your workflow does make a difference.

But in either case, these benchmark reports are excellent guides.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

I'd recommend getting a CPU that rates an 8,000 or higher. 10,000 is even better. Beyond that is nice to have and, for many budgets, pretty affordable. Just remember that technology depreciates very quickly. What you buy today is going to be worth about half as much a year from now. So I've never seen much sense in buying a $2000 processor only to have it lose $1000 in value by next summer. But, again, that's up to you and your budget. For me the sweet spot for a computer is between $700 and $1000, not including the monitor.

BTW, the CPU on the system you're looking at rates a 13,000. Pretty good and sure to meet your needs.

Your GPU figures into the formula too of course. But there the math gets a little more complicated. I focus my budget on the CPU when I buy. I don't believe in buying massive GPUs when a decently powered one will do. But again that depends on your budget.

In short, that's a very nice system you're looking at. A huge improvement over your i5.
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The CPU benchmark on that CPU is very decent, about 13000 on passmark:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-8700+%40+3.20GHz&id=3099

Now, I don't know what workstation is that, usually the Dell workstations use Xeon CPU's. I have a Dell Precision T7610 with two slightly older Xeon CPU's (see my sig) and the passmark is 21,247. Can scrub/edit 4k video in real time without proxy files and it cost me about $550 (with a P620, but I added my GTX1080 because I sometimes play games).

The P620 will provide accelerated encoding and decoding in PD, but ONLY if that's not a laptop:
https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-decode-gpu-support-matrix#Encoder

In laptops, only a few models can disable the intel UHD encoding, to use the nvidia one. Gaming laptops can't do that. For desktops is easier to disable the intel GPU.

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tomasc [Avatar]
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Quote Hi guys,

I'm using a pretty old PC to edit with PD18 and I'm really tired of how sluggish the editing process is. I'm not talking about the render times, which I can stomach, I'm talking about the editing itself - with my machine, pretty much any action requires a little pause. So I'm looking for a new machine, something that would make editing with PD18 really snappy and I've been eyeing one of the cheaper Dell Precision workstations. The specs are below. Can you tell me if PF18 would really benefit from such a machine, and in particular would it take an advantage of an NVIDIA Quatro GPU? Alternatively, can I get something better inside $2000?

Dell Precision specs:
CPU: Intel Core i7-8700 @ 3.20 GHz to 4.60 GHz
RAM: 16 GB DIMM DDR4 @ 2666 MHz
GPU: NVIDIA Quadro P620 + Intel UHD Graphics 630

Current PC specs:
CPU: Intel Core i5 4670K @ 3.40GHz
RAM: 16GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz
MB: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z87-C (SOCKET 1150)
GPU: 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770

The Dell website does have the Prescision 3431 SFF Desktop workstation with an i7-9700 and that Quadro P620 video card with a 200 watt power supply for $1339. I chatted with the rep and apparently he/she cannot locate or find such a configured system available with the i7-8700 for a reduced price.

PepsiMan has the best deal for $2000 that I see here. surprised
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Paul82 [Avatar]
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Thank you for your professional and in-depth advice. The exact machine I'm looking at is called Dell Precision T3630. I'm mostly editing 1080p or 4K videos shot with Lumix G7. I'll have to pass on PepsiMan's generous offer since I'm based in Europe, so shipping would probably cost more than the PC itself But you guys have helped me anyway!
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US (Intel 9th Gen i7-9700K, P1000 4GB, $2277): https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Precision-Workstation-Computer-i7-8700K/dp/B07R43NGG9

EU/DE: https://www.amazon.de/s?k=Dell+Precision+T3630&__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&ref=nb_sb_noss

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Maliek [Avatar]
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Quote These benchmark reports are excellent guides.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html


Thanks for sharing this resource Steven. Subscribe to PowerDirector University on YouTube.

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