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Hi Guys,

A quick test of stabilization and 360 titles, and a new feature: Set initial view (!)

Test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i16I27essCw

The stabilization works amazingly well! I was considering buying a Guru, but will keep that money in my pocket now The new feature Set inital view is also very welcome and works well, BUT only if you shift horizontally. It allows you also to look up/down, but this changes orientation of the Z-axis, making the horizon spin around that: not good. I will post to the PD forum as well tonight.

You can see this happening a bit in the third clip with my dog in the video.

{resolved in another topic: it's visible in 16:9 mode, not in 360 mode} [s]Also, the View Designer menu item is completely missing here. I posted this here in the forum already. Randomly when I click the Set Initial View, I get a warning about switching to 2D for View Designer, but clicking it does not open View Designer but the Initial View window. Anybody else have this?

I imagine the Little Planet option is in the View Designer?[/s]

regards, Frank

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Quote Hi Guys,

A quick test of stabilization and 360 titles, and a new feature: Set initial view (!)

Test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i16I27essCw

The stabilization works amazingly well! I was considering buying a Guru, but will keep that money in my pocket now The new feature Set inital view is also very welcome and works well, BUT only if you shift horizontally. It allows you also to look up/down, but this changes orientation of the Z-axis, making the horizon spin around that: not good. I will post to the PD forum as well tonight.

You can see this happening a bit in the third clip with my dog in the video.

Also, the View Designer menu item is completely missing here. I posted this here in the forum already. Randomly when I click the Set Initial View, I get a warning about switching to 2D for View Designer, but clicking it does not open View Designer but the Initial View window. Anybody else have this?

I imagine the Little Planet option is in the View Designer?

regards, Frank




Hi, just quick tested the stabilization with a strength of 30 (hope i did it right.. same place as regular video?) and i got a weird effect on zenith and nadir.
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been testing and retesting.. the "odd" effect has nothing to do with stabilize since it is there wether i use stabilize or not

it was not there in PD15 (i opened the same project)

i'm using a theta s

had a little planet video done 2 years ago but i made it from individual images.. took a week to render just hoping it will take less time now
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Hi Herrpedro,

I saw somebody else reporting this, in a 360 rumors reply here: http://360rumors.com/2017/09/powerdirector-16-adds-game-changing-360-video-editing-features-stabilization-360-titles-object-tracking.html

Can I ask in what resolution you are producing?

regards, Frank

And yes, I believe you did it right.

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Quote Hi Guys,

A quick test of stabilization and 360 titles, and a new feature: Set initial view (!)

Test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i16I27essCw

The stabilization works amazingly well! I was considering buying a Guru, but will keep that money in my pocket now The new feature Set inital view is also very welcome and works well, BUT only if you shift horizontally. It allows you also to look up/down, but this changes orientation of the Z-axis, making the horizon spin around that: not good. I will post to the PD forum as well tonight.

You can see this happening a bit in the third clip with my dog in the video.

Also, the View Designer menu item is completely missing here. I posted this here in the forum already. Randomly when I click the Set Initial View, I get a warning about switching to 2D for View Designer, but clicking it does not open View Designer but the Initial View window. Anybody else have this?

I imagine the Little Planet option is in the View Designer?

regards, Frank




Hi, just quick tested the stabilization with a strength of 30 (hope i did it right.. same place as regular video?) and i got a weird effect on zenith and nadir.
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Quote Hi Herrpedro,

I saw somebody else reporting this, in a 360 rumors reply here: http://360rumors.com/2017/09/powerdirector-16-adds-game-changing-360-video-editing-features-stabilization-360-titles-object-tracking.html

Can I ask in what resolution you are producing?

regards, Frank

And yes, I believe you did it right.





this is it ->

So far the stabilization is good, but after exporting it’s making a bit of that nadir vortex effect, still messing around with it to see if I can eliminate that.

and i also get a "black pie slice" of my 360 on the edges if i try to overlay a 360 picture on it (same pd15 project that made this https://youtu.be/XRic24mjYaM ) .. i just oponed it, added stabilization, produce.... but may be i messed up 2:1 res... going to check it... the vortex effect is not nice though

this is the little planet video from 2 years ago.... switched channel and lost the date

https://youtu.be/Bf3VyCW4VYg

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Quote Hi Herrpedro,

I saw somebody else reporting this, in a 360 rumors reply here: http://360rumors.com/2017/09/powerdirector-16-adds-game-changing-360-video-editing-features-stabilization-360-titles-object-tracking.html

Can I ask in what resolution you are producing?

regards, Frank

And yes, I believe you did it right.



here is my vortex ->http://clip2net.com/s/3NV23UZ

i'm exporting (also my input) 1920x960

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I see it. I've looked over my testvideo, but I don't think I have it. Now, that is, I just did this one little video with it.

In my testvideo I mixed two clips of two 360 cams with two different resolutions by the way. The one on the scooter was with a XDV Pano View (2560x1280) the one on the grass is of my LG (2880x1440).

The Pano view has only one lens, so a black disk below. What I did notice is that the black disk stays rigid in the unstabilised video, but bounces a bit in the stabilised video.

I believe I know where the vortexes may be coming from. If you stabilise a normal video with software, often it crops the video a bit so it has some room to maneuver when stabilising. In a 360 shot you cannot crop the video, or the sphere would not be full anymore. My guess is it tries to overcome this by jarring a bit at the top/bottom of the equirectangular, which could result in these vortexes (nadir/zenith are just single points/poles, but cover the full top/bottom of the equirectangular).

Not sure this is it but I think I might be on the right track.

Anyway, I'm VERY happy with the stabilising. I almost next month bought a Guru stabilizer, but I keep that money (about €300,-, already accounted for the €70,- PD upgrade) in my pocket for now. It was juggling my money anyway, so better to postpone it. Now I can do moving camera shots and don't worry too much about shaking shots.

Just check out this difference: I just quickly re-did one of my latest videos with the new stabilising.

Original, unstabilised: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je_2bcqaTKs

Redone stabilised version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwT0hFnt66k

I'm stunned, this is fantastic.

No weird nadir things happening here. I stabilised about 20 or so smaller clips individually here.

regards, Frank

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Quote I see it. I've looked over my testvideo, but I don't think I have it. Now, that is, I just did this one little video with it.

In my testvideo I mixed two clips of two 360 cams with two different resolutions by the way. The one on the scooter was with a XDV Pano View (2560x1280) the one on the grass is of my LG (2880x1440).

The Pano view has only one lens, so a black disk below. What I did notice is that the black disk stays rigid in the unstabilised video, but bounces a bit in the stabilised video.

I believe I know where the vortexes may be coming from. If you stabilise a normal video with software, often it crops the video a bit so it has some room to maneuver when stabilising. In a 360 shot you cannot crop the video, or the sphere would not be full anymore. My guess is it tries to overcome this by jarring a bit at the top/bottom of the equirectangular, which could result in these vortexes (nadir/zenith are just single points/poles, but cover the full top/bottom of the equirectangular).

Not sure this is it but I think I might be on the right track.

Anyway, I'm VERY happy with the stabilising. I almost next month bought a Guru stabilizer, but I keep that money (about €300,-, already accounted for the €70,- PD upgrade) in my pocket for now. It was juggling my money anyway, so better to postpone it. Now I can do moving camera shots and don't worry too much about shaking shots.

Just check out this difference: I just quickly re-did one of my latest videos with the new stabilising.

Original, unstabilised: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je_2bcqaTKs

Redone stabilised version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwT0hFnt66k

I'm stunned, this is fantastic.

No weird nadir things happening here. I stabilised about 20 or so smaller clips individually here.

regards, Frank




i believe you're on the right track, yes

i built a 360 project with a 360 video and just went to "fix" and "stabilization" as orginary videos... may be this is the problem.. if this is the stabilization for regular video and there is another place for 360..

happy it worked for you... hoping i did not do the thing correctly
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