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NitaiNewbie Joined: Feb 12, 2014 00:33Messages: 39Offline
Solved byFeb 28, 2014 01:01
Hello Awesome Forum!
So my idea is to use chroma key for backgrounds with me as the subject. Once the greenscreening is done and I am successfully on top of the colour background, can I change myself to black and white while keeping the background in colour?
Carl312Senior ContributorLocation: Texas, USAJoined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11Messages: 9090Offline
Feb 28, 2014 16:34
Quote:Hello Awesome Forum!
So my idea is to use chroma key for backgrounds with me as the subject. Once the greenscreening is done and I am successfully on top of the colour background, can I change myself to black and white while keeping the background in colour?
Thank you so much in advance for your help!
With respect,
Nitai
You should be able to apply a Black and White effect to the video of you, that would not effect the green screen (Chroma Key) effect.
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BarryTheCrabSenior ContributorLocation: USAJoined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18Messages: 6240Offline
Feb 28, 2014 18:12
If you have never done green-screen, I suggest you look it up on Youtube or Vimeo and get some valuable pointers.
Do NOT wear anything green
Do not have wrinkles in your screen
Even lighting.
No wrinkles.
Even lighting.
No wrinkles.
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NitaiNewbie Joined: Feb 12, 2014 00:33Messages: 39Offline
Feb 28, 2014 19:04
Thanks, Barry.
Yes, I understand about green screen, I know how to do it, that is not the issue. What I am wondering is:
I am the subject in front of greenscreen and will transfer myself onto a colourful motion background... I know how to do that, no problem. BUT:
- Once the two are merged can I make the subject (me) black and white while the background remains in colour?
OR
- In the original green screen video is there a way to separate me from the green screen so that I can change myself to black and white while keeping the green green.
BarryTheCrabSenior ContributorLocation: USAJoined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18Messages: 6240Offline
Feb 28, 2014 19:43
Ahhh, I see the conflicting needs.
My testing tells me "NO", you cannot do that within PowerDirector.
You would need to implement ColorDirector with a mask. I'm not sure how well the chroma-key edges would hold up using a motion mask.
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NitaiNewbie Joined: Feb 12, 2014 00:33Messages: 39Offline
Feb 28, 2014 21:51
Yes, I tried that. The edges are, well, there is a whitish outline, not too bad, but not desirable. The other way I found to do it was by taking out all saturation except for the green channel. I just have to make sure I'm not wearing green and hopefully the camera won't pick up my eyes either, haha. Thanks!
PlaySoundSenior ContributorJoined: Dec 02, 2010 10:26Messages: 2031Offline
Mar 02, 2014 09:20
Quote:Yes, I tried that. The edges are, well, there is a whitish outline, not too bad, but not desirable. The other way I found to do it was by taking out all saturation except for the green channel. I just have to make sure I'm not wearing green and hopefully the camera won't pick up my eyes either, haha. Thanks!
Tested here and not found a way to do what you want in PD12.
A note: PD makes Chroma Key with any color, need not be blue or green, whatever color you select will be removed.
knowing which is the background color used, so do not use this for the object in the foreground, I am no expert just my opinion.
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Carl312Senior ContributorLocation: Texas, USAJoined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11Messages: 9090Offline
Mar 02, 2014 15:14
Quote:Hello Awesome Forum!
So my idea is to use chroma key for backgrounds with me as the subject. Once the greenscreening is done and I am successfully on top of the colour background, can I change myself to black and white while keeping the background in colour?
Thank you so much in advance for your help!
With respect,
Nitai
As I said it can be done.
This is done with a combination of techniques.
First is the Chroma Key, Then you do a Fix/Modify > Color Adjustment and reduce the Color Saturatiion to 11.
Using the Black & White effect does kill the Chroma key.
Red Color Board is on Track 1
Chroma Key video is on Track 2 (Chroma Key for the green screen, fix/enhance to reduce the color Saturation)
The unmodified Video is on Track 3.
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NitaiNewbie Joined: Feb 12, 2014 00:33Messages: 39Offline
Mar 04, 2014 18:34
You are awesome! That looks great! Thanks for testing that for me, superstar!
One question though, I don't understand the difference between what you call 'chroma key video' and 'unmodified video'. In my understanding the original video with green screen goes on track two, and the colour background goes on track one, so what's that on track three now? Please advise.
Carl312Senior ContributorLocation: Texas, USAJoined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11Messages: 9090Offline
Mar 04, 2014 20:45
Quote:You are awesome! That looks great! Thanks for testing that for me, superstar!
One question though, I don't understand the difference between what you call 'chroma key video' and 'unmodified video'. In my understanding the original video with green screen goes on track two, and the colour background goes on track one, so what's that on track three now? Please advise.
Thanks again, and God bless you!
I put the unmodified (Straight from the camera) Green screen Video without any changes as the last couple of seconds to show that it was shot in full color on a green screen.
I just stuck it on Track 3 and did a fade from the modified video to the unmodified video.
The video on Track 2 is the Chroma keyed video that makes the green screen transparent, I also reduced color saturation to 11 to make the person (me) almost black & white. Track 1 is just a Red Color Board.
I did learn that you cannot bring the color saturation all the way to zero, it kills the Green screen effect, everything goes Black and White.
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