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PIP Motion Issue
Cranston
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Aug 17, 2007 02:26 Messages: 1667 Offline
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Hi All,

Are any of you experiencing a bit of shaking and jittering, when applying a motion path to a PIP image or clip?
When I use Magic Motion for images, or Video Crop for clips, the motion is always very fluid, steady, and smooth. And applying a quick PIP motion path (short duration), in PIP Designer, also looks fine. But when I apply a motion path of a relatively long duration, I get quite a bit of stuttering, shaking, and jittering.
At first I thought it was perhaps due to my lower end graphics card (AMD Radeon HD3450), but again, using Magic Motion and Video Crop results in very smooth playback over long durations, and all other PD functions display fine. So I’m stumped as to why my PIP motion path stuff, is not as fluid.

Here is a short video example of the shaking/jittering…
http://seemyworldonvideo.com/view/797/pip-motion-shake/

Any thoughts on what could be causing this?

Also, here is a link where one can download the (zipped/3MB) Packed Project Folder, for the above video example, if anyone would be interested or willing to download, un-zip, and run it in your PD8, and be kind enough to let me know if the PIP motion also displays some shaking in your PD8.
http://www.mediafire.com/?uyzzuwwzjm0


Happy Editing in the New Year everyone!



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Willy1 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Dec 27, 2009 00:39 Messages: 14 Offline
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Wish I could help ya out, but that's over my head for now. I'm sure someone here will be of help.
Cap'n Kevin
Senior Contributor Location: Chebeague Island, Maine Joined: Dec 26, 2008 20:22 Messages: 2011 Offline
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Hello Cranston,

I opened the packed project and as I was viewing it I thought you should add it to your "Jitter" story.

Very interesting, it was jiggling on my screen. My system though is not probably the best sytem to evaluate it. My graphics card is not the fastest!

Kevin
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Dafydd B [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 26, 2006 08:20 Messages: 11973 Offline
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Hi Carsten.

Take a look in C:\Documents and Settings\YOURPCNAME\My Documents\CyberLink\PowerDirector\8.0\MyPinPs you'll see the reason why perhaps.

Just make sure you've saved the PiP.

Dafydd

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Xerox [Avatar]
Contributor Location: California, USA Joined: Aug 09, 2009 01:36 Messages: 446 Offline
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I was trying the spiral motion path on a PiP and saw jittery movement over a 30-second period. That was with a screen resolution of 1024 x 768. Then I switched to a 1280 x 1024 screen resolution and the jitter went away on a new project. I went back to 1024 x768 thinking I would see the jitter come back, but it didn't.

The way I went about testing this was totally unscientific. Somewhere in the testing I also changed some of the NVIDIA grapics driver settings, but in the end I put them back the way they were before I started testing.

Anyway, one moment it was jittery, then another it was very smooth. And smooth is how it's been since.
Xerox [Avatar]
Contributor Location: California, USA Joined: Aug 09, 2009 01:36 Messages: 446 Offline
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I told you my testing was unscientific. Well, I introduced the jitter again. I changed the preview resolution from High to Normal. The jitter goes away when I change it from Normal to High.
Cranston
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Aug 17, 2007 02:26 Messages: 1667 Offline
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Hi Guys,

Will - Thanks for taking a look.

Cap'n - Thanks for loading it and confirming that it's also shakes a bit on your rig.

Dafydd - I followed your suggest path, but the "MyPinPs" folder was empty. Not sure what that means, or what significance it may have. Should there be something in the folder? Am I missing something that "should" be there? I've had this same shake issue through all of the PD8 builds I've installed, so another re-install of PD8 doesn't seem worth trying.

Xerox - Thanks for looking into this! I tried the screen resolution change you suggested might work, but no difference for me. Just made the shakes worse. And dropping the Preview resolution in PD had the same result. But thanks for the thought.

Thanks for the replies guys. I'll keep trying to solve this, but so far I'm pretty sure that my card, drivers, or resolutions are not part of the equation.

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Dafydd B [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 26, 2006 08:20 Messages: 11973 Offline
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Carsten,
I have sent you a zip file of the PiP you created.

Image attached.

Each thumb image is of the movement across the screen of the football.

Dafydd
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